Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?

[tyler]

I believe a silencer was found at the scene,but unfortunately nobody seems to want to admit to having found it.Due to the 4 murders/1 suicide conclusion,I think that it was just not deemed relevant.That was,until someone came up with the bright idea of introducing another silencer and merging the two,and the rest,as they say,is history.

[grahameb]

So, we have more chance of dying from falling out of bed than by falling from a ladder.

Unless it is a top bunk bed.

[tonyb]

Sorry, Tonyb, but that can't possibly be correct, the figures for deaths from ladders are substantially lower than this.

Never said it was rospa. (accident)

[tonyb]

Therefore...

the photographs of PC Whiddon screwing the aforementioned silencer onto the barrel of the rifle must have been taken on a date prior to or on 20th September 1985:-

See. I'm happier now mike has corrected the post of the photos from this mis informed comment that is obviously incorrect

[tonyb]

Here is PC Whiddon in possession of the silencer found by the relatives which did not get sent to the lab' until 20th September 1985. As can be seen, this silencer does not have any signed exhibit label attached to it bearing the signatures of the experts at the lab' who handled and dealt with a silencer on 13th and 30th August 1985, onwards...

The silencer in this photograph was the one PC Whiddon took from 'Taff' Jones desk at Witham police station, as described earlier...

Thanks for the correction Mike. Apology for your rant and calling me a fucking idiot clown wouldn't go amiss now .....

[tonyb]

Quote from: tonyb on Yesterday at 03:58 PM

986 male 15 - 64 year olds year 2000. Doesn't differentiate cause (rospa)




Tonyb, please remind me, what were you were saying about Mike making errors and failing to post the data from his sources...?

I think your being a little ridiculous choc. I googled some very basic info and posted it between posts quite quickly,I didn't research it for 50 minutes,maybe I should of. But at the time I wanted to show how many people fell of ladders in a particular period,that's all.i suppose with more effort I could of found a sample from 1986 when different technology was used in ladder technology as they must be safer now?

[Chochokeira]

Never said it was rospa. (accident)

Apologies, Tonyb, I don't understand your reply, what does it mean?

[tonyb]

Apologies, Tonyb, I don't understand your reply, what does it mean?

apologies not reqd. missed the comma.
Never said it was,rospa a = accident. ie i was specific that the sample i gave was for 15 - 64 year olds who had suffered from falling from ladders but from the quick view i gave it was unable to give specific details of extent of injuries. I do think i condensed the post quite well Choc,Ive only had one complaint.re-read the entire tread .it gets interesting from about 30,of course you will need an open mind and be able to see the way MT tries to manipulate the photo evidence. Of course hes rectified that now so I'm fairly Happy 

[tonyb]

Here is PC Whiddon in possession of the silencer found by the relatives which did not get sent to the lab' until 20th September 1985. As can be seen, this silencer does not have any signed exhibit label attached to it bearing the signatures of the experts at the lab' who handled and dealt with a silencer on 13th and 30th August 1985, onwards...

The silencer in this photograph was the one PC Whiddon took from 'Taff' Jones desk at Witham police station, as described earlier...

Is this also the actual murder weapon? It would seem a little insensitive if so

[mike tesko]

Is this also the actual murder weapon? It would seem a little insensitive if so

Yes, it is the actual weapon, you can see the damage and in the video clip it has got an exhibit label attached to it bearing signatures from when it was initially sent to the lab' on 9th August 1985...

[mike tesko]

You only have to look at the grip in her left hand which is frozen by cadaveric spasm to realize that Sheila did shoot herself, the grip of her left hand is consistent with her shooting herself, rather than trying to use her hand to ward off the barrel from being pushed into her neck...

[mike tesko]

The shape of her left hand would have been the opposite way around if she had been trying to prevent anyone from shooting her...

[tonyb]

Yes, it is the actual weapon, you can see the damage and in the video clip it has got an exhibit label attached to it bearing signatures from when it was initially sent to the lab' on 9th August 1985...

we still friends Mike?....

[Roch]

How would the death of Taff Jones have affected the other officers involved in the case?  If EP are involved in a cover up as to the circs in which Sheila died and the provenance of the intruduced silencer evidence, then regardless of whether Taff's death was suspcious or a tragic accident, perhaps it was perceived by other officers as a warning?

If I was a waverer among that team, maybe I'd be thinking 'it doesn't pay to waver'.

[Chochokeira]

apologies not reqd. missed the comma.
Never said it was,rospa a = accident. ie i was specific that the sample i gave was for 15 - 64 year olds who had suffered from falling from ladders but from the quick view i gave it was unable to give specific details of extent of injuries. I do think i condensed the post quite well Choc,Ive only had one complaint.re-read the entire tread .it gets interesting from about 30,of course you will need an open mind and be able to see the way MT tries to manipulate the photo evidence. Of course hes rectified that now so I'm fairly Happy 

Yes, but this part of the debate concerns the incidence of deaths resulting from falls from ladders, not the incidence of accidents. Taff didn't merely have a serious accident, he died. I have a shown that the incidence of deaths from ladder falls is tiny, that we are more likely to die as a result of falling out of bed than we are due to falling off a ladder.