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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2012, 09:12:PM »
Neil...

I have sent the document reference to the report re DCI Jones, silencer and scenes of crime...
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2012, 06:30:AM »
In 2003, Ewen Smith was contacted by  police officer who used the Christian name 'David', who said that the silencer found by the relatives was kept by DCI 'Taff' Jones on his desk at Witham police station for a very long time, and that it was PC Whiddon who had gone along into 'Taffs' office when he was not on duty and taken possession of this silencer and took it along to the force armoury where Whiddon screwed the silencer onto the barrel of the anshulz rfile to see if it fitted? Once Whiddon disco vered it did fit the rifles barrel, he arranged for that silencer to be sent to the lab' to be checked...

Now...

This does not equate with the official version of events of what is supposed to have happened with the silencer which the relatives found on 10th August 1985?
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2012, 06:39:AM »
In 2003, Ewen Smith was contacted by  police officer who used the Christian name 'David', who said that the silencer found by the relatives was kept by DCI 'Taff' Jones on his desk at Witham police station for a very long time, and that it was PC Whiddon who had gone along into 'Taffs' office when he was not on duty and taken possession of this silencer and took it along to the force armoury where Whiddon screwed the silencer onto the barrel of the anshulz rfile to see if it fitted? Once Whiddon disco vered it did fit the rifles barrel, he arranged for that silencer to be sent to the lab' to be checked...

Now...

This does not equate with the official version of events of what is supposed to have happened with the silencer which the relatives found on 10th August 1985?

According to the official version of events, relatives found silencer in gun cupboard on 10th August 1985, after police had given keys to whf back to family on 9th. The silencer was supposedly taken back to Ann Eatons home and examined in the kitchen before being put into storage for a couple of days until DS ' Stan' Jones came to collect it on the evening of 12th August 1985, who in turn took it away and placed it in a secure drawer in the scenes of crime department overnight. On the following morning he was supposed to have showed this silencer to PI 'Bob' Miller who advised him to give it to DCI 'Ron' Cook, who took it along to Huntingdon Lab' that morning and allowed Glyinis Howard to provisionally examine it. She in turn gave the silencer back to Cook, who took it away because it needed to be fingerprinted, which was carried out on 15th August 985 (oblique light test) and on 23rd August 1985 (superglue). Cook retained possession and control of the silencer at all times throughout this period, until 29th August 1985, at which stage he dismantled the silencer by removing its baffle plates and separating the first five baffles, top washer and end cap. He then rebuilt the silencer and screwed it directly onto the barrel of the anshulz rifle (and took pictures of this exercise). On the following day (30thy August 1985) Cook sent the silencer to the lab' for the attention of the ballistic expert Malcolm Fletcher (MDF), where the silencer remained until it was produced at the trial in October 1986...
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #33 on: January 27, 2012, 06:44:AM »
Once this silencer was at the lab' there came a time when MDF dismantled the silencer (which Cook had previously done) and the ballistic expert found a small flake of dried blood between either the first two baffles, or between baffles five and six (depending upon which version of events you choose to accept as being true). What MDF then did (according to him) is hand the silencer and the flake over to the blood expert, John Hayward, who in turn set about analysing the flake of blood which produced the blood group activity, A, EAP BA, AK1 aqnd HP 2-1 - this activity was obtained from examination of the blood from this flake between 12th to 19th September 1985...
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #34 on: January 27, 2012, 06:47:AM »
The blood group activity (A, EAP BA, AK1 and HP 2-1) was later attributed by the blood expert (Hayward) as being unique and exclusive to Sheila Caffel, although tests also established that one of the relatives also had the same combination of blood groups as Sheila (Robert Boutflour)...
« Last Edit: January 27, 2012, 06:47:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #35 on: January 27, 2012, 06:50:AM »
Now...

none of this equates with the fact that DCI 'Taff' Jones had the silencer which the relatives found, on his desk at Witham police station for a very long time before it was eventually sent to the lab' by PC Whiddon (in all the circumstances described previously)?
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #36 on: January 27, 2012, 06:52:AM »
Now...

none of this equates with the fact that DCI 'Taff' Jones had the silencer which the relatives found, on his desk at Witham police station for a very long time before it was eventually sent to the lab' by PC Whiddon (in all the circumstances described previously)?

According to the information which the police officer (David) told Ewen Smith in 2003, DCI Jones was using the silencer in question s a paper weight...
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #37 on: January 27, 2012, 06:55:AM »
According to the information which the police officer (David) told Ewen Smith in 2003, DCI Jones was using the silencer in question s a paper weight...

Now...

Ewen Smiths informant, also told him that there were two other police officers who could vouch for the fact that the silencer in question was kept on 'Taff' Jones desk in his office, and that PC Whiddon took possession of it as described and took it along to the force armoury where the rifle was being kept at that time, and had screwed it onto the barrel of the rifle - one of the named police officers who David identified was PC Whiddon himself...
« Last Edit: January 27, 2012, 06:56:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #38 on: January 27, 2012, 06:57:AM »
Now...

Ewen Smiths informant, also told him that there were two other police officers who could vouch for the fact that the silencer in question was kept on 'Taff' Jones desk in his office, and that PC Whiddon took possession of it as described and took it along to the force armoury where the rifle was being kept at that time, and had screwed it onto the barrel of the rifle - one of the named police officers who David identified was PC Whiddon himself...

I do not know the name of the second officer, but if I had to hazard a guess, it would have had to be either PI 'Bob' Miller, or DI 'Ron' Cook...
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #39 on: January 27, 2012, 07:06:AM »
One thing is certain, and that is that the silencer which DCI Jones had control and possession of, could not have been the same silencer that all the other witnesses have referred to (in the official version of events) since if it was the same silencer how would it have been subject of the facts as relied upon in the official version of events, and those of DCI Jones account?
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #40 on: January 27, 2012, 07:10:AM »
One thing is certain, and that is that the silencer which DCI Jones had control and possession of, could not have been the same silencer that all the other witnesses have referred to (in the official version of events) since if it was the same silencer how would it have been subject of the facts as relied upon in the official version of events, and those of DCI Jones account?

It is also known that the anshulz rifle remained in the force armoury until 20th September 1985, at which stage it was submitted to the lab' for the attention of MDF, and so any activity involving PC Whiddon screwing the silencer onto the barrel of that rifle, had to have occurred before the occasion the rifle was sent to the lab' on that occasion...
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #41 on: January 27, 2012, 07:12:AM »
It is also known that the anshulz rifle remained in the force armoury until 20th September 1985, at which stage it was submitted to the lab' for the attention of MDF, and so any activity involving PC Whiddon screwing the silencer onto the barrel of that rifle, had to have occurred before the occasion the rifle was sent to the lab' on that occasion...

Therefore...

the photographs of PC Whiddon screwing the aforementioned silencer onto the barrel of the rifle must have been taken on a date prior to or on 20th September 1985:-
« Last Edit: January 27, 2012, 07:14:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #42 on: January 27, 2012, 07:17:AM »
Note...

that there was no exhibit label attached to the silencer at the time PC Whiddon performed these duties?
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #43 on: January 27, 2012, 07:41:AM »
Since the anshulz rifle was kept in the force armoury until 20th September 1985, PC Whiddons involvement with it and the silencer he took from 'Taff' Jones desk, he must have performed the exercise of screwing the silencer onto the rifle prior to the rifles submission to the lab' on that occasion?

We also  now know...

that on 20th September 1985, a silencer was also sent along to the lab' to be checked for blood and fibres...

« Last Edit: January 27, 2012, 07:43:AM by mike tesko »
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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?
« Reply #44 on: January 27, 2012, 07:44:AM »
Since the anshulz rifle was kept in the force armoury until 20th September 1985, PC Whiddons involvement with it and the silencer he took from 'Taff' Jones desk, he must have performed the exercise of screwing the silencer onto the rifle prior to the rifles submission to the lab' on that occasion?

We also  now know...

that on 20th September 1985, a silencer was also sent along to the lab' to be checked for blood and fibres...

The silencer sent to the lab' on 20th September 1985, to be checked for blood and fibres, was not examined until 25th September 1985, at which point paint from the aga surround was detected to be present upon it?
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