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Jackiepreece

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A Question For Chochokeira
« on: January 06, 2012, 02:53:PM »
Keira
As the most important campaigner by far on this forum where do you feel the campaign is lacking and what would you personally do in the next few crucial weeks if you were in charge of the campaign

I think a lot of the people on this forum including me are very despondent at the moment

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Re: A Question For Chochokeira
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2012, 02:58:PM »
Keira
As the most important campaigner by far on this forum where do you feel the campaign is lacking and what would you personally do in the next few crucial weeks if you were in charge of the campaign

I think a lot of the people on this forum including me are very despondent at the moment

Jackie, whilst you are waiting for a reply from Choc, may I ask you the same question? What do you personally think is missing from the campaign and what do you think should be done?

There should surely be a final push or something, instead it all seems quiet on the Western Front.  :-\

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« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2012, 03:16:PM »
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Bambertweets keep announcing they have all the evidence they need to prove Jeremy is innocent. But then they contradict themselves later on appealing for more witnesses.
So I am not so sure
There has to be a media onslaught incase the CCRC are borderline on referring the case

I have numerous media contacts and I was in the middle of something really good but after yesterday I don't know if I can be bothered but I would be happy to pass them on to anyone else if they are interested

I think I must have spent a thousand hours on twitter and maybe it's time to hand over to someone who could do better


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« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2012, 03:24:PM »
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Bambertweets keep announcing they have all the evidence they need to prove Jeremy is innocent. But then they contradict themselves later on appealing for more witnesses.
So I am not so sure
There has to be a media onslaught incase the CCRC are borderline on referring the case

I have numerous media contacts and I was in the middle of something really good but after yesterday I don't know if I can be bothered but I would be happy to pass them on to anyone else if they are interested

I think I must have spent a thousand hours on twitter and maybe it's time to hand over to someone who could do better

Jackie, I take no pleasure, and I most certainly do not mean this in a goading manner, to yourself or to anybody else, but yes the sounds that are coming from the campaign team do not sound particularly confident.

You know that I think you are wrong about the case and the manner in which you express yourself leaves a lot to be desired (from my point of view, again no offence intended), however I cannot deny that your input and tenacity is above and beyond that which I've witnessed from other 'supporters'.

Personally I do not think there is anything which the campaign team, the official one or otherwise, can do to influence any decision to be made.

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Re: A Question For Chochokeira
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2012, 03:45:PM »
Jackie, for the majority of us who follow this forum, your dedication and passion has been clearly evident.
There may have not been the best of cohesion between all the forums, tweets, facebook etc… however the critical mass of these various mediums has served in instil debate and questioning on both sides, and you need to be applauded for that.
Such debate and questioning can only be a good thing and I am sure it has served to introduce the spectre of doubt on both extreme sides of this case.

I agree with Hartley’s final comment, and that none of these unofficial channels have any measurable bearing on the final outcome.

As I have commented before, I just hope that the few people who carry the unenviable burden of responsibility in this case look at the soundness of the original judgement.

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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2012, 04:35:PM »
Thank you for your kind words, Jackie, but I am not of any importance. I will give you my opinion, but as a mere campaigner, albeit a seasoned one who has fought a number of successful campaigns.

In a word, I believe the answer to what's lacking in Jeremy's campaign are unity and resolve.

Some years ago I tried to persuade the people of my community to oppose a small development which was so clearly just the first stage of future major development. At that time, when this plan was in its infancy, we could so easily have stopped the subsequent major development in its tracks. Yet few in my local community would accept the need to fight such an apparently small proposal. We were apathetic and we lacked unity.

You know the old saying, 'cometh the moment...? The time has to be right. I had tried to start a campaign at the wrong time. I wonder if now might be the wrong time for Jeremy's campaign too? That's hard to consider I know when Jeremy has been locked up for so many years. I do fear that he may have to wait a year or two longer.
 
Yet nothing is static for ever. Recent proposals for a much larger development have now changed everything here. My community has united as never before and we're fighting our socks off to stop this together. It took a great shock to wake us up here, I do hope I'm wrong and the same isn't true of Jeremy's campaign.

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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2012, 05:57:PM »
Thank you for your kind words, Jackie, but I am not of any importance. I will give you my opinion, but as a mere campaigner, albeit a seasoned one who has fought a number of successful campaigns.

In a word, I believe the answer to what's lacking in Jeremy's campaign are unity and resolve.

Some years ago I tried to persuade the people of my community to oppose a small development which was so clearly just the first stage of future major development. At that time, when this plan was in its infancy, we could so easily have stopped the subsequent major development in its tracks. Yet few in my local community would accept the need to fight such an apparently small proposal. We were apathetic and we lacked unity.

You know the old saying, 'cometh the moment...? The time has to be right. I had tried to start a campaign at the wrong time. I wonder if now might be the wrong time for Jeremy's campaign too? That's hard to consider I know when Jeremy has been locked up for so many years. I do fear that he may have to wait a year or two longer.
 
Yet nothing is static for ever. Recent proposals for a much larger development have now changed everything here. My community has united as never before and we're fighting our socks off to stop this together. It took a great shock to wake us up here, I do hope I'm wrong and the same isn't true of Jeremy's campaign.

Choc good post. The expression "nip it in the bud" comes to mind. This case certainly was not !!

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Re: A Question For Chochokeira
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2012, 06:12:PM »
For what it's worth.....if I could add my penneths worth.

This day and age, sadly, is led by celebrities.  More magazines are sold depending upon who is on this weeks cover issue etc....need I say more - people continue to follow these celebs copying what they wear and wanting to be 'just like them'.

Getting a celeb on board would be a milestone.  I tried Chris Martin among others.  The celeb 'must be the right celeb'.....

Worked wonders for the Ghurkas of late.

Also, I still have the contact of the guy who was to print all the JB is Innocent t-shirts....to get the celeb to wear one would hopefully bring further attention to our cause and highlight the complete failings in our Judicial System.  T-shirts are readily available for us all to buy if one wanted to push this forward.  The prints have already been done.

Too late now for the demo.....too late for the song (or is it - if you get the correct celeb?).

Media will not  cover this of their own accord before the decision, therefore, we have to make them cover it.....and if a celeb leads the way.....the papers will have to follow as they will not want to be left out.

From that, hopefully, would come interviews, prime time TV......

Our options are most limited now....but it's just a thought.

What do you think?

Be honest, if it's a non-starter please say so...... :D

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Re: A Question For Chochokeira
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2012, 04:34:AM »
Try to get some FAMOUS people interested, get pictures of the young handsome Jeremy into the media, otherwise, very few people care. No one will care about Jeremy as he looks now. Fact.
Sad truth. But one or two famous people - keep bugging them - will do the difference.
We COULD all try that. Call celebs, relentlessly, until one or two understands that an innocent person needs help and will talk abou it in the media. Noone will listen to US!

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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2012, 12:26:PM »
Try to get some FAMOUS people interested, get pictures of the young handsome Jeremy into the media, otherwise, very few people care. No one will care about Jeremy as he looks now. Fact.
Sad truth. But one or two famous people - keep bugging them - will do the difference.
We COULD all try that. Call celebs, relentlessly, until one or two understands that an innocent person needs help and will talk abou it in the media. Noone will listen to US!








That's exactly what I wrote in my post before yours Abs......but it needs to be the right celeb.  Imagine if it was Kerry Katona......AGGGGH!!!

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Re: A Question For Chochokeira
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2012, 01:02:PM »
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Personally I do not think there is anything which the campaign team, the official one or otherwise, can do to influence any decision to be made.

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I agree with Hartley’s final comment, and that none of these unofficial channels have any measurable bearing on the final outcome.

I do not agree with these views.  I think two or three specific single issue campaigns could have had a bearing on the legal side.  I would have centered such campaigns around key specific items of withheld / missing evidence.  The aim would have been to punch large dints in to the armour of the prosecuting authorities, attracting attention to the case and causing embarrassment / pressure regarding concealment of evidence. 

 

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Re: A Question For Chochokeira
« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2012, 01:16:PM »
I tried Russell Brand a while ago... one Essex boy to another.

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« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2012, 01:57:PM »
I tried Russell Brand a while ago... one Essex boy to another.



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Re: A Question For Chochokeira
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2012, 05:10:PM »
I tried Russell Brand a while ago... one Essex boy to another.



What a wise choice.  It would certainly take his mind off Katy.......  :D

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« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2012, 07:21:PM »


What a wise choice.  It would certainly take his mind off Katy.......  :D
Or the 5 in a bed memories.