Best kept secret - for 26 years police kept silent about footpribt photographed

[smiffy]

How significant do you think it is though Mike? Yes it proves she was in the kitchen at some stage that night but does it prove she must have been in the kitchen when the police entered??

Informant told me that Sheila's footprint was photographed in Ralph's blood on kitchen floor, and that police were satisfied that Sheila shot and killed Ralph in the kitchen. he also told me that police took other similar photographs along the route which Sheila took when she regained consciousness and fled upstairs before she died in the main bedroom...

COLP had access to these pictures in 1991...

So could the items placed on the floor to soak up the blood actually be covering the existence of footprints? Or were they elsewhere in the kitchen?

I like your thinking... it may even be they desired to have blood pour out of Ralph to hide bloody footprints.
Other possible covers would be the odd newspapers and magazine scattered on the floor...and possibly sugar spread about after bloody prints were cleaned up to give the impression nothing had been cleaned up....ie the sugar deception the police were not happy to talk about.

[Roch]

This photograph had to besuppressed as part of the cover up...

Has your informant got a copy of this Mike?

He has directed me to a certain document I may have in my possession that mentions the existence of the said photograph, which took me days to find, but I finally located it last night...

Why did police take this photograph and then withhold it?

I'm surmising that EP wouldn't need to conceal a photographic record of bloody footprints under the original 4/1 investigation.  Not even as part of any initial concealment regarding the circs surrounding Sheila's death (as per theorised).  Because Sheila would have had to have been downstairs at some point in that 4/1 scenario anyway.  And it could be portrayed that this travel to/from downstairs occurred earlier than when the raid had commenced.  Photos of such footprints would only need to be concealed once the case turned to 5 murders.

Mike, have the defence sanctioned or requested a block on any uploading of schedules which refer to footprints?  Is that why you have typed the text up instead?

I wonder if the police left any footprints?

[mike tesko]

This photograph had to besuppressed as part of the cover up...

Has your informant got a copy of this Mike?

He has directed me to a certain document I may have in my possession that mentions the existence of the said photograph, which took me days to find, but I finally located it last night...

Why did police take this photograph and then withhold it?

I'm surmising that EP wouldn't need to conceal a photographic record of bloody footprints under the original 4/1 investigation.  Not even as part of any initial concealment regarding the circs surrounding Sheila's death (as per theorised).  Because Sheila would have had to have been downstairs at some point in that 4/1 scenario anyway.  And it could be portrayed that this travel to/from downstairs occurred earlier than when the raid had commenced.  Photos of such footprints would only need to be concealed once the case turned to 5 murders.

Mike, have the defence sanctioned or requested a block on any uploading of schedules which refer to footprints?  Is that why you have typed the text up instead?

I wonder if the police left any footprints?

here are the relevant police schedules:-

[mike tesko]

And so...

[Reader]

Box 5 / BD Metal threaded ring
Would that be an end-cap for a rifle?

[campion]

MIKE,    Congrats on your contraversially cryptic cartoon!  Is that a Vulture, or Red Kite on Plods phallic helMET?

[Roch]

MIKE,    Congrats on your contraversially cryptic cartoon!  Is that a Vulture, or Red Kite on Plods phallic helMET?

I think you'll find it's a Lyle & Scott logo.

[campion]

I fear you are correct, David.   Hartley, would you like to give your opinion on what Mike's trying to indicate  -  that the Sound Moderator evidence is a load of B......S!!

[smiffy]

Box 5 / BD Metal threaded ring
Would that be an end-cap for a rifle?

could well be.

what I also find interesting is "6X photo albums of silencers "

silencers in PLURAL..so they cover more than one silencer!

[Roch]

Box 5 / BD Metal threaded ring
Would that be an end-cap for a rifle?

could well be.

what I also find interesting is "6X photo albums of silencers "

silencers in PLURAL..so they cover more than one silencer!

I noticed that but it was not the plural reference that stuck out, it was the number of potential photographs.

[mike tesko]

Box 5 / BD Metal threaded ring
Would that be an end-cap for a rifle?

could well be.

what I also find interesting is "6X photo albums of silencers "

silencers in PLURAL..so they cover more than one silencer!

End cap for the rifle, yes...

Neither police nor relatives say where it was found, or by whom and when?

[Hartley]

Box 5 / BD Metal threaded ring
Would that be an end-cap for a rifle?

could well be.

what I also find interesting is "6X photo albums of silencers "

silencers in PLURAL..so they cover more than one silencer!

I noticed that but it was not the plural reference that stuck out, it was the number of potential photographs.

Are you aware that the lab carried out various experiments on 4 other (non-related) identical control sound moderators, to get an idea of how different blood would interact and mix and how far it might extend into the sound moderator.

The use of a plural is worth a look, but hardly much to go on.

[ngb1066]

Box 5 / BD Metal threaded ring
Would that be an end-cap for a rifle?

could well be.

what I also find interesting is "6X photo albums of silencers "

silencers in PLURAL..so they cover more than one silencer!

I noticed that but it was not the plural reference that stuck out, it was the number of potential photographs.

Are you aware that the lab carried out various experiments on 4 other (non-related) identical control sound moderators, to get an idea of how different blood would interact and mix and how far it might extend into the sound moderator.

The use of a plural is worth a look, but hardly much to go on.

I have not heard of this before.  Was evidence about this presented at the trial?  I find the information that photographs were taken of silencers very interesting, because I do not believe these have been disclosed to the defence.

[smiffy]

There are numerous mentions in the COLP interviews in which it is clearly implied that 2 silencers were involved.

[Roch]

Box 5 / BD Metal threaded ring
Would that be an end-cap for a rifle?

could well be.

what I also find interesting is "6X photo albums of silencers "

silencers in PLURAL..so they cover more than one silencer!

I noticed that but it was not the plural reference that stuck out, it was the number of potential photographs.

Are you aware that the lab carried out various experiments on 4 other (non-related) identical control sound moderators, to get an idea of how different blood would interact and mix and how far it might extend into the sound moderator.

The use of a plural is worth a look, but hardly much to go on.

I have not heard of this before.  Was evidence about this presented at the trial?  I find the information that photographs were taken of silencers very interesting, because I do not believe these have been disclosed to the defence.

Harters, there is often the possibility of an explanation that does not necessarily aid the defence.  Do you know if there is any documented mention of these 'control' silencers?