could this have happened.

[DCrump]

Somewhere in that lot you said:

Now they have a problem.  Jeremy!  What to do with him.  He's still alive.....AND, he may know why Ralph was killed.   Or, the 'persons' who set this whole thing up, only fear he may know...therefore, he MUST NOT be permitted to speak.   What is the solution?  Lock him up.....for life!  And when it's near his time for release.....lock him up permanently!!! 

He's in prison, not dead - why wouldn't he speak?

I think I can see why JB / the campaign declined your assistance.

[chochokeira]

do we know if nevile dialed 999 or the police station number.

He dialed the Police station number...not 999.  Which also raises the question why he did not dial 999.

Therefore, it does explain why he dialed the station direct.  A very brave man indeed!!

I've never seen a compelling explanation for the circular marks on Nevill's neck. The lack of an explanation for these marks is one of a number of reasons I have for not discounting the possibility of a third party killer, a killer unconnected to Jeremy or only marginally connected.

Nevill was a local magistrate who had lived at Tolleshunt D'Arcy and been an active member of the local community for over 30 years. He would have known the phone numbers of the police stations at Witham and Chelmsford and would have been well known to police officers based at these stations.

He was also known to have had enemies and to have been threatened: hence the panic line that had been installed at the instigation of local police.

Would the police have known that Nevill was not using the panic line when he called? Might Nevill perhaps have hoped that the police might therefore suspect that he was being coerced when he made the call?

[nugnug]

Somewhere in that lot you said:

Now they have a problem.  Jeremy!  What to do with him.  He's still alive.....AND, he may know why Ralph was killed.   Or, the 'persons' who set this whole thing up, only fear he may know...therefore, he MUST NOT be permitted to speak.   What is the solution?  Lock him up.....for life!  And when it's near his time for release.....lock him up permanently!!! 

He's in prison, not dead - why wouldn't he speak?

I think I can see why JB / the campaign declined your assistance.

who would believe a convicted who came up with a far fetched story like that.

it wouldn't matter weather he spoke or not.

[Aunt Agatha]

Somewhere in that lot you said:

Now they have a problem.  Jeremy!  What to do with him.  He's still alive.....AND, he may know why Ralph was killed.   Or, the 'persons' who set this whole thing up, only fear he may know...therefore, he MUST NOT be permitted to speak.   What is the solution?  Lock him up.....for life!  And when it's near his time for release.....lock him up permanently!!! 

He's in prison, not dead - why wouldn't he speak?

I think I can see why JB / the campaign declined your assistance.

Because Jeremy doesn't know anything.....that is why!

Also, if he did know something....and he revealed it......then that's goodbye to his freedom.  Whilst he is in prison he will no doubt be disbelieved...again.....but if he came out - whatever he knew, he may go and look for the truth....and at the same time - may ust find out who was behind this whole thing.


Ouch!  Your comments hurt..... 

[mertol22]

no hitman would have spared anyone unless that was the contract , there is still the problem of how they entered the house, most contract killers have their own firearms .

[nugnug]

what if they entered the house throw the front door because Nevile let them in.

or they had a key.

[Aunt Agatha]

no hitman would have spared anyone unless that was the contract , there is still the problem of how they entered the house, most contract killers have their own firearms .

Good point about firearms....but, if he used his own, then they could not pin the murders on Sheila.  Sheila would have been left alive, deliberately, to cover the hitman's tracks.  Using his own piece would only take suspicion away from Sheila and they would be looking for an outsider...as sheila would have stated had she lived.

[chochokeira]

no hitman would have spared anyone unless that was the contract , there is still the problem of how they entered the house, most contract killers have their own firearms .

Good point about firearms....but, if he used his own, then they could not pin the murders on Sheila.  Sheila would have been left alive, deliberately, to cover the hitman's tracks.  Using his own piece would only take suspicion away from Sheila and they would be looking for an outsider...as sheila would have stated had she lived.

If a hit man was the killer, he (or she) might well be an outsider. Yet there were a number of local suspects too.  The man who left the area with his family following the murders, who (around a year later?) killed his wife and another member of his family (his mother in law?) was one of the other suspects, wasn't he?

[nugnug]

who ever they were they would have to know about sheilas illness.

[Aunt Agatha]

no hitman would have spared anyone unless that was the contract , there is still the problem of how they entered the house, most contract killers have their own firearms .

Good point about firearms....but, if he used his own, then they could not pin the murders on Sheila.  Sheila would have been left alive, deliberately, to cover the hitman's tracks.  Using his own piece would only take suspicion away from Sheila and they would be looking for an outsider...as sheila would have stated had she lived.

If a hit man was the killer, he (or she) might well be an outsider. Yet there were a number of local suspects too.  The man who left the area with his family following the murders, who (around a year later?) killed his wife and another member of his family (his mother in law?) was one of the other suspects, wasn't he?
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True.  When I said 'outsider'. I meant outside of the family.  Sorry for the confusion.....but yes, you are right, it could have been anyone.  However, I've been lead to theory it was a pro job......why would a community member kill the children also?   Maybe a pro could do it.....to let the family see he was not 'messing around'.....that this was serious!!!

[mertol22]

we could do with shona now, help us out, another problem i have with a 3rd party , a hitman would not have got in a struggle just clean shooting and out, what if the guns jammed in the house , how would the 3rd party know where eveyone would be ?

[Aunt Agatha]

who ever they were they would have to know about sheilas illness.

Definitely - because to save arousing suspicion of it being anyone else she was 'the fall guy'.  She was meant to get the blame.....no matter what the outcome! 

But the family denied it could ever have been Sheila (and questions still remain unanswered really, how did sheila, at 7st, attack a 15st man the size of Ralph with all the meds she was on).  .....yes, the family  blamed JB for their own benefit.......but if it was not Sheila....and it was not JB...then who was it?

[jackiepreece]

Keira
Have you posted about the man who left the area,  who was he

[Aunt Agatha]

we could do with shona now, help us out, another problem i have with a 3rd party , a hitman would not have got in a struggle just clean shooting and out, what if the guns jammed in the house , how would the 3rd party know where eveyone would be ?

Clean shooting - I agree.  Mother and kids first.  Ralph had to get Jeremy over to the house, but he got a good beating after the prank he pulled calling the police instead of JB....and Sheila...she was not to be killed anyway.

Of course, whilst waiting for JB to arrive, the surviving family members would have put up one hell of a fight!

[chochokeira]

Keira
Have you posted about the man who left the area,  who was he

I forget, Mike will know.