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Re: Death of DCI "Taff" Jones...
« Reply #45 on: July 09, 2012, 07:50:PM »
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Now the dark secret and the reason why Jeremy will not win his appeal.

Bambergate is not about Jeremy Bamber at all.

The truth is, when ACC Simpson decided to cave in to the pressure from the family and redirect the case and frame Jeremy for the murders, he set two people on a collision course that even he did not see the outcome coming.

Taff Jones was a very experienced and skilled detective and the assistant head of Essex CID.  The Bamber case was the biggest of his career, very public and he worked on the case for just about 5 weeks.

When removed from the case it blackened his career and I understand he was very much against framing a young man who had just lost all his family.

By the time he made his position was clear to his colleges, they had gone too far in fabricating a case against Jeremy, who by then was on remand for murder with the press following every move.

I understand one officer acted alone to try and bring Taff to their thinking, which did not work out.

I think ACC Simpson was informed on the same day as to what had happened by this officer, giving him a choice to instantly arrest him which would have led to his own arrest and that of many of the senior Essex Police officers.

If you want to know who then study the COLP interviews carefully.

Many of the officers do not know this but some of them have worked it out, and it creates a very interesting relationship between these former officers who covered up their mistake in the farmhouse, under the instruction of ACC Simpson and Essex Police today...

They are not going to be made scapegoats.

Ask yourself who decided Taff Jones died in a accident and follow your nose.
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Re: Death of DCI "Taff" Jones...
« Reply #46 on: July 09, 2012, 09:46:PM »
The police and the relatives framed Jeremy for the murders, with the help of the state, and the only police officer prepared to stand up against the other conspirators (DCI "Taff" Jones) died in suspicious circumstances. So suspicious were the circumstances of his death (which occurred shortly after he made a report about the shootings involving the alleged silencer) that the inquest notes are currently withheld under pii...

Senior officer who took over the case once "Taff" had been removed, later went to work for the relatives as a security advisor at the family run Osea Road, Camp Site...

Its a small world isn't it?
"Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when we first practice to deceive"...

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Re: Death of DCI "Taff" Jones...
« Reply #47 on: July 10, 2012, 08:55:AM »
we are told that DCI Jones statement was hidden in the attic, later to be stolen in a burglary.
Question is; How would the burgler know that it was in the attic?
How would he find time to find a pair of steps to access the attic?
It points to one thing; Mrs Jones herself disposed of this statement and there was no burglary at all

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Re: Death of DCI "Taff" Jones...
« Reply #48 on: July 10, 2012, 09:29:AM »
The police and the relatives framed Jeremy for the murders, with the help of the state, and the only police officer prepared to stand up against the other conspirators (DCI "Taff" Jones) died in suspicious circumstances. So suspicious were the circumstances of his death (which occurred shortly after he made a report about the shootings involving the alleged silencer) that the inquest notes are currently withheld under pii...

Senior officer who took over the case once "Taff" had been removed, later went to work for the relatives as a security advisor at the family run Osea Road, Camp Site...
Its a small world isn't it?

If this is true, then that is in my opinion shocking.  Such an arrangement is not only innapropriate, it would also further feed suspicion regarding the whole relationship between relatives and some police officers. 
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Re: Death of DCI "Taff" Jones...
« Reply #49 on: July 10, 2012, 09:42:AM »
If this is true, then that is in my opinion shocking.  Such an arrangement is not only innapropriate, it would also further feed suspicion regarding the whole relationship between relatives and some police officers.
I think it's easy to see how this sort of arrangement would have come about.  If the former officer involved in the case, felt he had done nothing wrong during the investigation, he would not have considered that taking this position would, in any way be inappropriate.

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Re: Death of DCI "Taff" Jones...
« Reply #50 on: July 10, 2012, 10:02:AM »
I think it's easy to see how this sort of arrangement would have come about.  If the former officer involved in the case, felt he had done nothing wrong during the investigation, he would not have considered that taking this position would, in any way be inappropriate.

We need to know how and when Ainsley first became involved in any capacity.

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« Reply #51 on: July 10, 2012, 10:19:AM »
We need to know how and when Ainsley first became involved in any capacity.
Yes, I absolutely agree.  As long as he wasn't on the payroll before the trial, I don't see that there is a sustainable argument.  It does seem that it's yet another issue that muddies the waters, but these sort of things do happen.

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Re: Death of DCI "Taff" Jones...
« Reply #52 on: July 10, 2012, 10:40:AM »
Yes, I absolutely agree.  As long as he wasn't on the payroll before the trial, I don't see that there is a sustainable argument.  It does seem that it's yet another issue that muddies the waters, but these sort of things do happen.

I'm afraid I have to take a somewhat more cynical approach to this Neil. 

Somebody needs to set up a horizontal time-line of the case.  I have briefly looked at this but I think you need to download software to do it.
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« Reply #53 on: July 10, 2012, 10:51:AM »
I'm afraid I have to take a somewhat more cynical approach to this Neil. 

Somebody needs to set up a horizontal time-line of the case.  I have briefly looked at this but I think you need to download software to do it.
I thought you might!

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Photo of "Taff" Jones...
« Reply #54 on: March 04, 2020, 04:22:PM »
Hi,does anybody have a photo of Taff Jones.  I had just turned a teenager when this tradegy happened and spent the whole summer cycling around with my friends being an utter nuisance to the police...we knew the land better than them..so would find holes to watch.. however, I cant remember what Taff looked like...… and if you google him, you get stan jones.

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Re: Photo of "Taff" Jones...
« Reply #55 on: March 04, 2020, 04:39:PM »
Hi,does anybody have a photo of Taff Jones.  I had just turned a teenager when this tradegy happened and spent the whole summer cycling around with my friends being an utter nuisance to the police...we knew the land better than them..so would find holes to watch.. however, I cant remember what Taff looked like...… and if you google him, you get stan jones.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?sxsrf=ALeKk039UTQ5VE-E776yGIkHYbNucEtSqg:1583339838691&q=dci+thomas+taff+jones+photo&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjt9pLFoIHoAhVHQRUIHaQ6Bn4Q420oCnoECAEQIg&biw=1627&bih=771#imgrc=IE4NRmiLlm_S7M