Death of DCI "Taff" Jones...

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A small article in 'The Law' May '86. (page 1)

[Jane]

The CCRC allegedly having access to PII material in this case doesn't exactly fill anyone with a sense of relief or confidence in the system.  I think you make a fair point about the distressing of his family. Nevertheless, if an alternative truth really is hidden in this affair, I cannot see how anyone family or otherwise, is being best served by its' continued concealment.

Roch, what you say regarding the possible concealment of alternative truth can't be argued with, but from the family's perspective, what remains hidden, after all this time, is not at the forefront of their thoughts. Exposing that possible alternative would mean exposing the family, second time around, to their father/husband's involvement and thoughts regarding the Bamber tragedy, and subsequently, his own tragic death, and whilst, for his sake, they may wish for, whatever truth may be hidden, to be revealed. For them, the truth may be too uncomfortable to cope with.

[Neil]

Why was Taff taken off the case? 

[tonyb]

Why was Taff taken off the case?

i dont know it as fact but witholding evidence? he kept one of the silencers and used it as a paperwieght didnt he?

[tonyb]

i dont know it as fact but witholding evidence? he kept one of the silencers and used it as a paperwieght didnt he?

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Re: Suspicious death of DCI Jones - motives for murder?

« Reply #117 on: January 28, 2012, 12:46:PM »

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Quote from: tonyb on January 28, 2012, 12:40:PM

You sure this isn't a Press Confrence photo Mike
Looks like a camera lens in the top left corner?




Well, fact of the matter is, Ewen Smiths informant told him in 2003 that PC Whiddon had gione a,long to the desk of DCI 'Taff' Jones, and took possession of a silencer which 'Taff' had been keeping and using as a paper weight and that Whiddon took it along to the force armoury to see if it fitted the guns barrel,and when he carried that exercise out and he found that it did fit, the silencer in question along with the rifle were sent off to the lab' on 20th September 1985...

Now, you only have to use a little bit of common sense, and you must surely realize that Whiddon did screw the rifle onto the barrel of the gun at that time, on that occasion, and that this action could have been the source from which a small flek of Sheila's blood got into the silencer. Whiddon has not yet denied that he did it..

like i said....  keeping a key piece of evidence,unreal.

[Neil]

Thanks for that Tony. 

[lookout]

Thanks for that Tony.

It just gets worse.

[grahameb]

It just gets worse.

Strange them counting it as a key piece of evidence yet they already had their key bit of evidence in the other silencer.

[tonyb]

Thanks for that Tony.

i must stress i do not know why taff was removed from the case but as he was holding a key exhibit on his desk and using it as a paperweight. this would destroy the integrity of the silencer in question and compromised the investigation i would of thought.

[haughton]

hello Lookout, That DCI Jones's wife was insisting that Jeremy was innocent must mean that she had read Taffs notes! Question is ; why has she not disclosed this evidence, thus leaving a man to rot in prison who she knows to be not guilty!. I suspect intimidation with menaces

[Roch]

Roch, what you say regarding the possible concealment of alternative truth can't be argued with, but from the family's perspective, what remains hidden, after all this time, is not at the forefront of their thoughts. Exposing that possible alternative would mean exposing the family, second time around, to their father/husband's involvement and thoughts regarding the Bamber tragedy, and subsequently, his own tragic death, and whilst, for his sake, they may wish for, whatever truth may be hidden, to be revealed. For them, the truth may be too uncomfortable to cope with.

That is a fair point April. 

[Roch]

hello Lookout, That DCI Jones's wife was insisting that Jeremy was innocent must mean that she had read Taffs notes! Question is ; why has she not disclosed this evidence, thus leaving a man to rot in prison who she knows to be not guilty!. I suspect intimidation with menaces

How do we know that this was the case?  Also, perhaps it is natural for a spouse to back their loved one under pressure.  Just a thought.

[lookout]

How do we know that this was the case?  Also, perhaps it is natural for a spouse to back their loved one under pressure.  Just a thought.

Hi Roch,,,whether under pressure or not,,it's not the done thing to keep information that could be used at a later date..particularly if it meant someones' freedom. It must have been important enough to have hidden it in the loft. You can bet your life if it had been against Jeremy,,it would have been available for all to see.

[Roch]

Hi Roch,,,whether under pressure or not,,it's not the done thing to keep information that could be used at a later date..particularly if it meant someones' freedom. It must have been important enough to have hidden it in the loft. You can bet your life if it had been against Jeremy,,it would have been available for all to see.

Hi Lookout.  I meant, maybe the reason why she backed him on Bamber was out of loyalty rather than any notion of Bamber actually being innocent.  Then again, it is possible he confided in her.  So she may indeed have obtained an awareness of the relevant issues.

[Jane]

hello Lookout, That DCI Jones's wife was insisting that Jeremy was innocent must mean that she had read Taffs notes! Question is ; why has she not disclosed this evidence, thus leaving a man to rot in prison who she knows to be not guilty!. I suspect intimidation with menaces

Hello Haughton. It may be exactly as you suggest. On the other hand, I doubt very much that Jeremy's innicence/guilt was uppermost in her thoughts after losing her husband , at such a young age, in so sudden and dramatic way. For the next few years she may have done no more than go through the motions of living. She may have needed medication. She may have need therapy, and by the time she came out the other end she may have felt it was too late to say anything............or had been persuaded not to.