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Offline mike tesko

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1140 on: November 17, 2011, 08:22:AM »
One thing we can be certain about, and that is that as of 13th September 1985, if Essex police had had  possession of a silencer found by the relatives a month earlier, and Julie Mugford coming  forward as she did - it did not amount to anyrhing of substance to warrant Bamber being charged with the murders, or with the need to detain him further at that stage...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1141 on: November 17, 2011, 09:06:AM »
A key feature not yet explored, concerns handwritten notes made by Ann Eaton, at the time Jeremy was under arrest and in custody, when jeremy was wanting someone to stand as surety for bail, relatives made it clear that they were not prepared to be guarantors, which is not surprising, considering that they were wanting the police to keep Jeremy locked up, rather than give him bail, and to release him?

At this juncture...

Ann wrote that her brother David had told her, “ Not to worry because he had got something up my sleeve“...

Now...

I wonder what that could have been?
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1142 on: November 17, 2011, 09:44:AM »
A key feature not yet explored, concerns handwritten notes made by Ann Eaton, at the time Jeremy was under arrest and in custody, when jeremy was wanting someone to stand as surety for bail, relatives made it clear that they were not prepared to be guarantors, which is not surprising, considering that they were wanting the police to keep Jeremy locked up, rather than give him bail, and to release him?

At this juncture...

Ann wrote that her brother David had told her, “ Not to worry because he had got something up my sleeve“...

Now...

I wonder what that could have been?


What did David Boutfour mean, when he told Ann, that he had got something up his sleeve?

What did Ann Eaton, think her brother meant, when he told her those words?
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1143 on: November 17, 2011, 10:00:AM »
"Iv'e got something up my sleeve”, could have been a reference to anything, however, in view of the timing of them, one can be left in no doubt whatsoever, that it might have got something to do with trying to keep Jeremy in custody?
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1144 on: November 17, 2011, 10:10:AM »
"Iv'e got something up my sleeve”, could have been a reference to anything, however, in view of the timing of them, one can be left in no doubt whatsoever, that it might have got something to do with trying to keep Jeremy in custody?

In my book...

The following features, have Yet to be properly or adequately explained, and one or other of these features could be linked to David Boutrflours, comments...

“Not to worry, Iv'e got something up my sleeve”...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1145 on: November 17, 2011, 11:14:AM »
(1) Date silencer was found, and when it was sent to lab...

(2) Where did small flake of blood which produced blood group activity, A, EAP BA, AK1 and HP 2-1, originate from?

(3) When did David Boutflour use a razor blade to scrape a small flake of dried blood off the silencer he found? What did he do with this flake of blood once he had recovered it?

(4) According to what he told COLP (1991), Essex police were fully aware of what he had done, but which Essex police officers did he tell, and what action if any was taken by the police to recover the aforementioned flake?

(5) Would Essex police leave Boutflour in possession of such a crucial piece of bloodied flake?

(6) Did Essex police contact lab` about this flake?

(7) Was this the flake, analyzed between 12th and 19th September, which produced the crucial blood group activity?

(8) Does the exhibit reference, DRB/1, actually relate to the submission of the flake to the lab' on 11th September, followed on 20th September, by submission of the silencer to be checked for blood and fibres?

(9) At what stage did the additional marks that materialized on the front face of the kitchen aga, first appear?

(10) Was Boutflour in possession of silencer at time additional marks were made on aga?

(11) Why was a silencer which was sent to the lab` to be checked for blood and fibres, on and by 20th September, only to be contaminated with paint from the aga, in the kitchen?

(12) How could two separate silencers (the one sent to lab` on 30th August, and the other silencer sent there on 20th September), both have paint on them from the aga, if this was only a one gun crime?

(13) If the silencer which police sent to lab` on 20th September to be checked for blood and fibres, only had paint from the aga upon it, how could the crucial flake of blood, which produced the same blood group activity from Sheila,
have been found inside it, if the silencer in question, was not even present at the lab`, to enable blood to be found inside it?
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1146 on: November 17, 2011, 09:47:PM »
Rules for being human:-
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1147 on: November 17, 2011, 10:02:PM »
And so, COLP (1991) spoke to DS Davidson, (SOC), and DC Hammersley, (SOC),:-
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1148 on: November 17, 2011, 10:12:PM »
Coroners court document forms:-
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1149 on: November 17, 2011, 10:14:PM »
I cant help feeling that Stokenchurch opened a can of worms that nobody quite knew how to put the lid on, except to deceive (or collude with) superiors in to authorising PII.  I'd love to see the full Stokenchurch files. 

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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1150 on: November 17, 2011, 10:15:PM »
I cant help feeling that Stokenchurch opened a can of worms that nobody quite knew how to put the lid on, except to deceive (or collude with) superiors in to authorising PII.  I'd love to see the full Stokenchurch files.

I may post them all, in good time...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1151 on: November 17, 2011, 10:23:PM »
Supervision of Bamber Case:-
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1152 on: November 17, 2011, 10:51:PM »
Repeated references in police statements, to seeing body of Sheila in bedroom, which "APPEARED TO BE DEAD", not that she was dead...
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1153 on: November 17, 2011, 10:52:PM »
Police Interviews of Jeremy Bamber, 8th September, 1985:-

Interview (1)

Commenced at 12:20hrs and concluded at 13:45hrs
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Re: you should all know this?
« Reply #1154 on: November 17, 2011, 11:11:PM »
Police Interviews of Jeremy Bamber, 8th September, 1985:-

Interview (2)

Commenced at 17:38hrs and concluded at 18:28hrs
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