you should all know this?

[andrea]

Just to put you all out of your agony here is the fucking picture you don't believe exists.

I told you not to tell them Tesko!!

good work, you must show me how to use photoshop.

[Hartley]

This photo is photoshopped and has been lifted from Lamby's forum. I think there are few people who need their heads examined. 

Just to put you all out of your agony here is the fucking picture you don't believe exists.

I told you not to tell them Tesko!!

[andrea]

you forgot to put a bed underneath too, tut tut.

[jackiepreece]

Yes Hartley you and your mate John know all about multiple user names and how to get around using different ip addresses

In my own opinion you are one of the most deceitful people on this forum

I am very clear in my mind who you are and I am fully entitled to have my opinion and I am still waiting for a genuine person to join this forum who thinks JB is guilty but not connected to the family or the police

I don't believe anyone would believe Jeremyis guilty if they knew the actual facts in the case

[Roch]

I have challenged Mike before on seemingly contradictory theories. He explained that sometimes he does this to 'encourage debate'.
Unfortunately, it is becoming harder to work out what exactly Mike actually believes is true.

He posts his findings which have altered over the course of time.  He has also expressed that there are several truths.  Maybe it's a bit like Roshomon?

[Hartley]

Check out this link.
http://miscarriageofjustice.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=bamber&thread=183&page=1

This photo is photoshopped and has been lifted from Lamby's forum. I think there are few people who need their heads examined. 

Just to put you all out of your agony here is the fucking picture you don't believe exists.

I told you not to tell them Tesko!!

[vidvic]

Grahame. Is there any way we can keep the number of picture postings to a minimum? We've just had repeated viewings of Sheila and the first instance proved the point being made.

[Hartley]

Grahame. Is there any way we can keep the number of picture postings to a minimum? We've just had repeated viewings of Sheila and the first instance proved the point being made.

I'll delete it from my posts.

[smiffy]

Message log has Dr Craig en route with an ETA of 10 minutes at 8.10 am .
So if correct about the eta we have him at scene by 8.20 am and is feasible he had viewed all the bodies, especially Sheila's, prior to 8.30 am.

Hmm lets see a body with one bullet wound only...
Now massive focus will be on this single wound and the bullet found within the body.....
Fair enough if it was from a rifle that had been on scene and used in the killings of the other 4...but what if it was known, or became known, that this was a bullet from a police weapon.

What to do to remove focus from this single bullet wound....

I know..lets fire another bullet into her...so straight away we have halved the focus on that bullet...a bit of evidence manipulation ..swap bullet with one also fired from the weapon used to fire the second bullet and hey presto...we might get away with it.

[vidvic]

Yes Hartley you and your mate John know all about multiple user names and how to get around using different ip addresses

In my own opinion you are one of the most deceitful people on this forum

I am very clear in my mind who you are and I am fully entitled to have my opinion and I am still waiting for a genuine person to join this forum who thinks JB is guilty but not connected to the family or the police

I don't believe anyone would believe Jeremyis guilty if they knew the actual facts in the case

I think there are many people on this forum who believe him to be guilty and are not connected to the family.

[vidvic]

Message log has Dr Craig en route with an ETA of 10 minutes at 8.10 am .
So if correct about the eta we have him at scene by 8.20 am and is feasible he had viewed all the bodies, especially Sheila's, prior to 8.30 am.

Hmm lets see a body with one bullet wound only...
Now massive focus will be on this single wound and the bullet found within the body.....
Fair enough if it was from a rifle that had been on scene and used in the killings of the other 4...but what if it was known, or became known, that this was a bullet from a police weapon.

What to do to remove focus from this single bullet wound....

I know..lets fire another bullet into her...so straight away we have halved the focus on that bullet...a bit of evidence manipulation ..swap bullet with one also fired from the weapon used to fire the second bullet and hey presto...we might get away with it.

So, she wasn't already shot and lying on the kitchen floor when the raid team entered the house.....

[Quietlife]

I am completely unconnected to the family or the case in anyway but I am afraid I have, as yet, seen nothing that convinces me that the original jury decision should be interfered with... but then Jackie will just label me as 'not genuine'. I read some of the stuff on this forum with great interest but this current thread is insulting people's intelligence.

With respect.

[smiffy]

Message log has Dr Craig en route with an ETA of 10 minutes at 8.10 am .
So if correct about the eta we have him at scene by 8.20 am and is feasible he had viewed all the bodies, especially Sheila's, prior to 8.30 am.

Hmm lets see a body with one bullet wound only...
Now massive focus will be on this single wound and the bullet found within the body.....
Fair enough if it was from a rifle that had been on scene and used in the killings of the other 4...but what if it was known, or became known, that this was a bullet from a police weapon.

What to do to remove focus from this single bullet wound....

I know..lets fire another bullet into her...so straight away we have halved the focus on that bullet...a bit of evidence manipulation ..swap bullet with one also fired from the weapon used to fire the second bullet and hey presto...we might get away with it.

So, she wasn't already shot and lying on the kitchen floor when the raid team entered the house.....

Who says she was....The claims about the womens body in the kitchen are noticeable for the lack of specifying any detail...even as much as that she was on the floor or even shot. A body is just that...it does not say alive or dead or shot or not shot. Be careful not to alter the claims made!

[chochokeira]

Smiffy,

I don't believe a word of this whole 'prosecution witness' story from Mike.

And please, show me something of 'substance' to prove that any of this story is anything more than a figment of Mike's imagination.

Vidvic! You should be ashamed of yourself. There was I, thinking you were one of the good guys among the antis, like Shona, and you go and do a 'rest my case' Hartley style personal attack on Mike. What grounds do you have for the above character assassination? None - or you would have detailed these. So what does your objection boil down to - the gut feeling of an anti who is intent on keeping Jeremy in prison at all costs? One who isn't too fussed whether Jeremy is guilty or not as long as he stays in the slammer?

[vidvic]

But apparantly, according to Mike, this sighting led to Police logging 2 bodies downstairs, and moving through the kitchen with Sheila lying on the floor, after which, she got up and made her way to the bedroom.....but it's fair enough if you don't place any importance to the logs.....