Missing Fingernail of Sheila Caffell...

[chelmsey]

TBM, I've had a tough day, struggling with a recalcitrant pony and a runaway pug, and I will never match your grasp of language or facts, but at the risk of sounding like a complete plum I'm going to trudge down the hit-man route for a while longer, because it works for me and puts so many pieces of the jigsaw into place. If JB hired a hit-man it would make him almost equally culpable, and also  in danger of retribution. I'm guessing that that's a bit woolly for you, but it makes more sense than most of the theories on here. Suck it and see.

Good post! at last,someone that shares my sentiments.Whether it was JB that "hired" someone,I must admit I am still not sure.Ralph had made innuendos to a couple of people prior to his death with effect to fearing that he would be killed.He slept with a shotgun under his bed,which according to one person was in order to shoot foxes prowling in the night but according to someone else was because the gun was deemed expensive! IMO there is only one reason why one would sleep with a shotgun under their bed?It seems to me that  Ralph was in fear of someone and I am not yet convinced that it was JB.

[Newbury1]

TBM, I've had a tough day, struggling with a recalcitrant pony and a runaway pug, and I will never match your grasp of language or facts, but at the risk of sounding like a complete plum I'm going to trudge down the hit-man route for a while longer, because it works for me and puts so many pieces of the jigsaw into place. If JB hired a hit-man it would make him almost equally culpable, and also  in danger of retribution. I'm guessing that that's a bit woolly for you, but it makes more sense than most of the theories on here. Suck it and see.

Good post! at last,someone that shares my sentiments.Whether it was JB that "hired" someone,I must admit I am still not sure.Ralph had made innuendos to a couple of people prior to his death with effect to fearing that he would be killed.He slept with a shotgun under his bed,which according to one person was in order to shoot foxes prowling in the night but according to someone else was because the gun was deemed expensive! IMO there is only one reason why one would sleep with a shotgun under their bed?It seems to me that  Ralph was in fear of someone and I am not yet convinced that it was JB.

Do we know where this shotgun, usually kept under the bed, was on the night?

Did someone, knowing Ralph kept a shotgun under the bed, move it prior to entering whf to commit the murders?

[mb1]

TBM, I've had a tough day, struggling with a recalcitrant pony and a runaway pug, and I will never match your grasp of language or facts, but at the risk of sounding like a complete plum I'm going to trudge down the hit-man route for a while longer, because it works for me and puts so many pieces of the jigsaw into place. If JB hired a hit-man it would make him almost equally culpable, and also  in danger of retribution. I'm guessing that that's a bit woolly for you, but it makes more sense than most of the theories on here. Suck it and see.

Good post! at last,someone that shares my sentiments.Whether it was JB that "hired" someone,I must admit I am still not sure.Ralph had made innuendos to a couple of people prior to his death with effect to fearing that he would be killed.He slept with a shotgun under his bed,which according to one person was in order to shoot foxes prowling in the night but according to someone else was because the gun was deemed expensive! IMO there is only one reason why one would sleep with a shotgun under their bed?It seems to me that  Ralph was in fear of someone and I am not yet convinced that it was JB.

Do we know where this shotgun, usually kept under the bed, was on the night?

Did someone, knowing Ralph kept a shotgun under the bed, move it prior to entering whf to commit the murders?

+1 A really good point.

So which gun usually went under the bed?

[mb1]

TBM, I've had a tough day, struggling with a recalcitrant pony and a runaway pug, and I will never match your grasp of language or facts, but at the risk of sounding like a complete plum I'm going to trudge down the hit-man route for a while longer, because it works for me and puts so many pieces of the jigsaw into place. If JB hired a hit-man it would make him almost equally culpable, and also  in danger of retribution. I'm guessing that that's a bit woolly for you, but it makes more sense than most of the theories on here. Suck it and see.

Good post! at last,someone that shares my sentiments.Whether it was JB that "hired" someone,I must admit I am still not sure.Ralph had made innuendos to a couple of people prior to his death with effect to fearing that he would be killed.He slept with a shotgun under his bed,which according to one person was in order to shoot foxes prowling in the night but according to someone else was because the gun was deemed expensive! IMO there is only one reason why one would sleep with a shotgun under their bed?It seems to me that  Ralph was in fear of someone and I am not yet convinced that it was JB.

Do we know where this shotgun, usually kept under the bed, was on the night?

Did someone, knowing Ralph kept a shotgun under the bed, move it prior to entering whf to commit the murders?

+1 A really good point.

So which gun usually went under the bed?

Could this gun have been found under the bed during the search of the room, and propped up by the window to be photographed there?

[Reader]

The photograph that's been posted shows a rifle leaning against the window frame.

[Hartley]

Didn't the relatives find a shot gun in the house at the same time as they found the silencer?

[Newbury1]

TBM, I've had a tough day, struggling with a recalcitrant pony and a runaway pug, and I will never match your grasp of language or facts, but at the risk of sounding like a complete plum I'm going to trudge down the hit-man route for a while longer, because it works for me and puts so many pieces of the jigsaw into place. If JB hired a hit-man it would make him almost equally culpable, and also  in danger of retribution. I'm guessing that that's a bit woolly for you, but it makes more sense than most of the theories on here. Suck it and see.

Good post! at last,someone that shares my sentiments.Whether it was JB that "hired" someone,I must admit I am still not sure.Ralph had made innuendos to a couple of people prior to his death with effect to fearing that he would be killed.He slept with a shotgun under his bed,which according to one person was in order to shoot foxes prowling in the night but according to someone else was because the gun was deemed expensive! IMO there is only one reason why one would sleep with a shotgun under their bed?It seems to me that  Ralph was in fear of someone and I am not yet convinced that it was JB.

Do we know where this shotgun, usually kept under the bed, was on the night?

Did someone, knowing Ralph kept a shotgun under the bed, move it prior to entering whf to commit the murders?

+1 A really good point.

So which gun usually went under the bed?

Could this gun have been found under the bed during the search of the room, and propped up by the window to be photographed there?

The gun propped at the window in the photo is, I believe, a .22 - the shotgun "usually kept under the bed" has /is not accounted for.

Knowing where this particular shotgun was on the night of the murders would (IMO) be very interesting?

[Hartley]

The gun propped at the window in the photo is, I believe, a .22 - the shotgun "usually kept under the bed" has /is not accounted for.

Knowing where this particular shotgun was on the night of the murders would (IMO) be very interesting?

In Ann's statement (or it might have been Davids) it says that they found a shot gun in the house at the same time as they found the silencer.

[mb1]

TBM, I've had a tough day, struggling with a recalcitrant pony and a runaway pug, and I will never match your grasp of language or facts, but at the risk of sounding like a complete plum I'm going to trudge down the hit-man route for a while longer, because it works for me and puts so many pieces of the jigsaw into place. If JB hired a hit-man it would make him almost equally culpable, and also  in danger of retribution. I'm guessing that that's a bit woolly for you, but it makes more sense than most of the theories on here. Suck it and see.

Good post! at last,someone that shares my sentiments.Whether it was JB that "hired" someone,I must admit I am still not sure.Ralph had made innuendos to a couple of people prior to his death with effect to fearing that he would be killed.He slept with a shotgun under his bed,which according to one person was in order to shoot foxes prowling in the night but according to someone else was because the gun was deemed expensive! IMO there is only one reason why one would sleep with a shotgun under their bed?It seems to me that  Ralph was in fear of someone and I am not yet convinced that it was JB.

Do we know where this shotgun, usually kept under the bed, was on the night?

Did someone, knowing Ralph kept a shotgun under the bed, move it prior to entering whf to commit the murders?

+1 A really good point.

So which gun usually went under the bed?

Could this gun have been found under the bed during the search of the room, and propped up by the window to be photographed there?

The gun propped at the window in the photo is, I believe, a .22 - the shotgun "usually kept under the bed" has /is not accounted for.

Knowing where this particular shotgun was on the night of the murders would (IMO) be very interesting?

So do you know which shotgun habitually lived under the bed?
Was this the gun found leaning against the wall in the downstairs office?

[chelmsey]

Regarding the gun photographed in the window. Im pretty sure that Cook admitted that it was the rifle photographed with Sheila.BUT he claimed that it was only moved to be photographed AFTER all the crime scene photos of Sheila had been completed.I read somewhere that the gun usually kept under Ralphs bed was found in the gun cupboard on the morning of the murders.

[andrea]

hi sarann.

in the book i have of colins page 21 is the 1st page of the 1st chapter.

i wonder if we have different editions?

mine was published in 1994

[Janet (Formerly known as Takeshi)]

I have read somewhere, and I really wish I could remember where, that JM did not identify the twins. But that they were identified by "unique features" as described to the police by Colin Caffell.

Am I even on the right thread? 

[Alex]

I have read somewhere, and I really wish I could remember where, that JM did not identify the twins. But that they were identified by "unique features" as described to the police by Colin Caffell.

Am I even on the right thread? 

That's always been my understanding too, but I can't remember where I read it - sorry.

[sandy]

Mike - with reference to:
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GBoXf__1A4QJ:www.studiolegaleinternazionale.com/downloads/bamber/BAMBERCCRC_addendum_06_06_2004.doc+bamber+2002+appeal&cd=57&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk
[2004]

It says that the person who attacked Ralph Bamber had finger nails at least 5mm-6mm long, and had the finger nails been shorter they could not have inflicted the wounds on the right arm and a similar wound on the arm of June Bamber.

It mentions that the post mortem photograph of June Bamber's arm shows one laceration consistent with a single finger nail indentation into the skin.

Could this be how/where Sheila lost her nail?

Congratulations for being so dedicated and informative by the way!

Most definitely not as even the defence have had to admit in their submission to the CCRC on 4 June 2004 that Shelia's nails could not have caused the lacerations to Nevill and June's arms.

The finger nails of Sheila Caffell were examined. A post mortem photograph of her hands was indeed made available and formed part of the “Jury Bundle.” The said finger nails of Sheila Caffell were too long to have caused the laceration/indentation marks on the arm of Ralph Neville Bamber and the singer mark on the arm of June Bamber.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GBoXf__1A4QJ:www.studiolegaleinternazionale.com/downloads/bamber/BAMBERCCRC_addendum_06_06_2004.doc+bamber+2002+appeal&cd=57&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

[smiffy]

It had to be JB of Sheila that killed the other 4 ...and Ralphs arms injuries were caused by Sheila as her nails were in the correct size range to cause the damage and Jeremy's were not.
END OF STORY.
JB is innocent..
Only people who are incredibly thick or corrupt in some manner will try denying it.. the truth is what really happened not what those involved in  blackmail , threats, protection of vested interests, etc would prefer it to be.