8th Bullet not recovered from Ralph Bamber, during autopsy, sensation...

[mike tesko]

8th Bullet not recovered from Ralph Bamber, during autopsy, sensation

According to the contents of a witness statement made by Pathologist, Peter Venezis, dated, 7th May, 1986, he never recovered a bullet from the 8th wound in the body of Ralph Bamber, during the autopsy he performed on 7th August 1985...

a schedule which was also produced in connection with these matters, shows that only seven bullets were recovered from Ralph's body - and that no bullet was recovered at all from the eighth wound...


Yet, by the time this matter came to court in October 1986, a total of eight bullets were attributed as having been recovered from his body:-

(1) - PV/2
(2) - PV/3
(3) - PV/4
(4) - PV/5
(5) - PV/8
(6) - PV/9
(7) - PV/10
(8) - PV/11

If, based upon his own words, in the aforementioned witness statement, the Pathologist did not remove or recover a bullet, from the eighth wound, during autopsy on 7th August 1985, how come eight bullets (above) were attributed as having been recovered from Ralph's body, during the same autopsy, each bearing the identifying mark (PV) of the pathologist?

View the body chart, (1), showing the injuries sustained by Ralph during the incident. along with the aforementioned schedule (2), which shows only seven bullets were recovered from Ralph's body during autopsy, together with various extracts (3 & 4), from the ballistic (Malcolm Fletcher) experts statement, showing eight bullets which were allegedly recovered from Ralph's body during autopsy that he linked to the Bamber rifle, and (5a to 5g), the Pathologists witness statement, dated, 7th May 1986, where he confirms that he did not recover a bullet from the eighth wound, below:-

Body Chart - Ralph Bamber (1)

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Bullet and wound schedule - Ralph Bamber (2)

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Extracts from Ballistic Experts statement (3)

Please note, six bullets that were recovered from Body of Ralph Bamber in this part of the ballistic experts statement...

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Extract from Ballistic Expert statement (4)

Please note, an additional two bullets, making eight in total, that were recovered from body of Ralph Bamber, in this part of the ballistic experts witness statement...

Where did the eighth bullet materialize from, and at what stage did it come into existence, and become part of the batch of crime scene mmunition?

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Pathologists statement, dated, 7th May 1986, where he confirms that he did not recover bullet from 8th wound during autopsy (5a)

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Pathologists statement, dated, 7th May 1986, where he confirms that he did not recover bullet from 8th wound during autopsy (5b)

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Pathologists statement, dated, 7th May 1986, where he confirms that he did not recover bullet from 8th wound during autopsy (5c)

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Pathologists statement, dated, 7th May 1986, where he confirms that he did not recover bullet from 8th wound during autopsy (5d)

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Pathologists statement, dated, 7th May 1986, where he confirms that he did not recover bullet from 8th wound during autopsy (5e)

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Pathologists statement, dated, 7th May 1986, where he confirms that he did not recover bullet from 8th wound during autopsy (5f)

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Pathologists statement, dated, 7th May 1986, where he confirms that he did not recover bullet from 8th wound during autopsy (5g)

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At least two bullets are now known to have been added into the batch of crime scene ammunition in connection with these five deaths:-

(1) Bullet PV/20, which started out life as a fragmented bullet when removed from the body of Sheila Caffell, during autopsy, on 7th August 1985, which became transformed into a whole bullet that he was able to positively link to the Bamber rifle, by the time the ballistic expert, Malcolm fletcher received it at the Lab' on 20th September 1985, and

(2) an eighth bullet, that was not recovered during autopsy, performed on body of Ralph Bamber, on 7th August 1985, which materialized out of thin air, by the time the ballistic expert, Malcolm Fletcher got involved in proceedings...

Where did these two additional bullets (PV/20, Sheila Caffell, and the 8th bullet, Ralph Bamber), originate from?

[mike tesko]

Two Control Bullets, are missing, or unaccounted for, as confirmed by the COLP Investigation, 1991/92, from exhibit DRH/22 - twenty nine (29) Eley .22 subsonic hollow point bullets, which were seized from the Kitchen worktop at whf, on 7th August 1985

The ballistics expert, only used twenty seven (27) of these 29 control bullets during the official test firings which took place between 20th September, and 2nd October 1985. When questioned by COLP as to what happened to these two missing control bullets, the ballistic expert told them that he must have forgot to make a record about what happened to them...

We now know, of course, that there was an unofficial test firing of the Bamber rifle, and control ammunition, which took place, between, 11th and 19th September 1985, a fact which the police and the ballistic expert tried to sweep under the carpet - at least one bullet, possibly two, must have been used during these unofficial test firings, and the disappearance of the two control bullets, from the batch of 29 bullets, which formed part and parcel of DRH/22, must have been fired via the Bamber rifle, on that earlier occasion, and subsequently introduced, and become part of the batch of crime scene ammunition, by 20th September 1985...

The substituted bullet, PV/20, and the 8th bullet, which was subsequently attributed to Ralph Bamber, must surely be linked to the two missing control bullets, from DRH/22, that COLP took an interest in during their investigation, 1991/92...

If true, why did Essex police allow the crime scene ammunition to be tampered with?

Why were Essex police so keen to destroy the crime scene ammunition after ten (10) years, without consulting anyone who might have sought to have it re-examined, with a view to reconstructing what took place?

[Roch]

Fascinating reading.  Painfully grim when reading about RB's initial facial injuries and how they may have affected him.  I know it's going off topic but PV trashes the opinion that SC had got up and moved between her two shots.

[Kaldin]

Fascinating reading.  Painfully grim when reading about RB's initial facial injuries and how they may have affected him.  I know it's going off topic but PV trashes the opinion that SC had got up and moved between her two shots.

It is grim. When talking about all the ballistics, police logs, and other evidence it's easy to overlook how absolutely vicious this crime was. One can only guess as to what Nevill was doing in the kitchen or if he tried to save his family but the poor man was shot in the face, beaten, and shot all over again. I dread to think how he must he felt knowing that one of his family members was doing this to him.