Non disclosed statement of WPC Julia Jeapes, and the color coding of whf?

[mike tesko]

The problem with the idea that Sheila Caffell somehow (a) shot herself dead with two shots, (1) one shot from one gun and the second shot from another gun, or as the case may be, (2) two shots from the same gun..

Sheila Caffell did not shoot herself, whether or not she was shot by way of the use of two different weapons, or one. The absolute truth is that somebody else shot her, and killed her..

That person, was not Jeremy Bamber, or an accomplice, or any hitman, simply because the manner with which Sheila Caffells death scene was staged as a supposed suicide stinks of official arrogance! Essex police wanted the shootings of the five victims dealt with solely in the Coroners court, where they thought they could get away with a basic investigation and preparation. This included a few basic photographs, showing Sheila in possession of the gun the police said had fired all the shots, where Sheila shot and killed the other four victims, and afterwards that she had turned the same gun on herself by way of a suicide!

The cops shot Sheila, there can be no doubt whatsoever about that fact!

How can this be proven.

Well, to start off with there exists two different accounts regarding the victims body count, downstairs and upstairs, for example, (1) the police radio message log version of the timed events set out in individual and collective radio messages, versus, (2) the witness statement version of events which for whatever reason, there do not exist any timings regarding the discovery of victims bodies inside the farmhouse!

An absence of timed events in the Witness statement version of the alleged events should raise huge concerns, in view of it being a basic requirement instilled in every copper from their first day of training, and when testifying during court proceedings...

The witness statements which have been produced by firearm officers in this case, leave a lot to be desired!

None of them offer an explanation for there having been two bodies present downstairs in the kitchen between 7.35am and 8.10am, and for there only being three further bodies upstairs by 8.10am. Instead they enter straight away into written dialogue declaring that there was only one body downstairs in the kitchen (Neville Bambers body), with the other four bodies all found upstairs!

To settle this matter, it has to be borne in mind that from 6.09am until 8.15am, the kitchen handset of the farmhouse telephone was left off its cradle, and had been acting as a microwave to listeners back in the control room at Chelmsford police station. It should also be remembered that support officers in attendance at the farmhouse at the point when firearm officers entered the farmhouse, included the occupants of CA07 who were tuned in to the raid teams radio channel frequency, whilst at the same time, also being in direct communication with senior officers located in a nearby forward control point in a nearby outbuilding! Nobody has denied that the contents of the variously timed and recorded police messages, are not true, No-one has offered any explanation for why there were two bodies downstairs in so far as the timed messages are concerned, versus the witness statement version which promoted only one body being there? The list of all those involved who all fail to deal with the body count / location remains a lot to be desired, Bear this in mind, when cops tried to introduce an explanation for having seen the body of a woman through a kitchen window, by claiming this was a mistake soon rectified once the police got into the kitchen, and identifying the body as a dead male! But if this were true, why was it that in the police message logs which are contemporaneously recorded and timed, all the mentions of there being a dead female body in the kitchen come after mention has already been made of there being the body of one dead male found in the kitchen. Not only that, or this, but the incident whereby an officer looked in through a ground flour window beyond the external door, reporting that he could see the body of a woman deliberately introduced the room in which he thought he had seen the body of a woman as the same room that Neville Bambers body was found in afterwards - But, the route taken by the raid team when approaching the farmhouse, was from the direction of Whiteside / Redside, sending them past the kitchen window to the door, and the sighting of the woman’s body was made through the laundry room window, not the kitchen window, Neville Bambers body was not in the same room as the woman’s body that was seen through a different window!

Similarly, one of the two original bullets subject of the shooting of Sheila Caffell dramatically manifested itself from originally being a small piece of a fragmented bullet (when recovered from Sheila’s neck during autopsy performed on 7th August 1985), into a whole bullet by September 1985, enabling the ballistic expert, to present it, as having been loaded and fired from the same weapon which had fired the second shot (bullet PV19). But, why did police have to substitute the original PV/20 bullet. Was it because either (a) the original couldn’t be linked to any weapon, or (b) it had been fired from a separate weapon which the police didn’t want to be known about.

[mike tesko]

If Julia Jeapes is correct. Its two windows with the same rifle at different times. yes, the same rifle at two different windows at different times. The Jeapes' sighting of the rifle leaning against the inside of the first floor box room window at the precise moment in time when the six man raid team was already making it approach to enter the rear external back door on WHITESIDE of the farmhouse. It is important to remember a number of facts in relation to the WPC Jeapes' sighting of the rifle at this window. For example, she did not arrive at the scene until 7 am, along with the second group of 10 additional firearms officers, and that she was deploy at the corner of WHITESIDE/REDSIDE OF THE PREMISES in the role of a containment officer, who is Johnny was to provide cover for the members of the raid team. These duties included heating a constant eye and a lookout for any movement or anything that she saw which may be significant in any of the windows that she had a view of. Indeed, from her described vantage Point of being stood at the corner of WHITESIDE/REDSIDE, she would have been able to see the following ground floor windows, (1) to the left on WHITESIDE she could see the kitchen window, (2)situated on the right of the external back door, and beyond theat door (3) the laundry room window, which was also referred to sometimes by the family as the back kitchen. On on the right of her position, again on the ground floor (4) she would have been able to see the dining room window, (5) beyond which was the front door to the farmhouse. Beyond the front door on REDSIDE (6) she would have been able to see the lounge or living room window. On the first floor on WHITESIDE (7) she would have been able to see the box room window, followed (8) by the bedroom inside which it was believed that the two children were sleeping in their beds! On the first floor on REDSIDE she would have been able to see a total of three windows, (9) the the closest to her be the main bedroom window, (10) the second window that she could see being the upper landing main staircase window, and lastly but not least, (11) the furthest window away being Jeremy bamber's bedroom window. The sighting of the rifle at the first floor box room window (7) on WHITESIDE of the premises, is very important because that particular window of that room, is situated in between two major crime scenes within the Farmhouse upstairs, that (10) is the main bedroom where the bodies of June Bamber, and Sheila Caffell' were eventually photographed in situ after 11.00am, and on the other side of (8) the box room window, where the bedroom, in which the bodies of the two child victims were subsequently found! It would have transpired as Sheila having placed the rifle by the box room window prior to taking it into the main bedroom to take her own life with it. I am in agreement with it having been Sheila who placed the rifle at the first floor box room window, but I can tell you with 100% certainty that although she placed the rifle there, that she wasn't the person who removed it from there afterwards, that is after WPC Jeapes' saw it there through the 'scope of her weapon! I can also say with absolute certainty that the rifle was still resting there at the first floor box room window until just before 8.44am, when a police officer collected the rifle from that window and brought it through into the main bedroom by which time the two bodies of Sheila Caffell, and June Bamber were both present! Prior to this, one has to bear in mind the documented police activity which unfolded inside the farmhouse at specific times, involving the fact that between as early as 7.35am and 8.10am, there were two bodies downstairs, and the other three bodies found pstairs! More specifically in relation to the two bodies that were downstairs during this 35 minute period, one of these two bodies was a dead male, the second was the body of a dead female! Moreover, by 7.45am, the two dead bodies that were downstairs in the kitchen 7.35am, 7.37am, 7.38am and 7.42am) were being spoken about in terms of one of the dead bodies being a result of a murder, and the second body as a 'SUICIDE'. These two references to two dead bodies in the kitchen could only be a reference to the bodies of Neville Bamber and Sheila Caffell. The former was murdered, the latter believed to have committed suicide! But, how could Sheila have shot and killed herself downstairs in the kitchen, if the rifle which was supposedly used to inflict that first shot (bullet PV/20) was still resting at the first floor box room window, more or less in the room above, where it had remained, unmoved ever since WPC Jeapes' first saw it there since prior to the six man raid team entering the farmhouse? DI Cook ect then remove it from her body and place it by the other window some two and a half hours later. Cook could not have removed the rifle from Sheila Caffell's body two and a half hours later and stood it by the main bedroom window because PC Bird did not start taking photographs of Sheila's BODY with the anshuzt rifle still in her possession until 11.00am and afterwards. In addition, we have three different police officers removing the rifle from Sheila's body, PI Montgomery, PS Woodcock, and DI Cook! PS Woodcock states he did not remove the gun from Sheila's body until 11.10am, so you can't trust anything Cook and Montgomery say or said about the matter. Three different coppers all saying they personally removed the gun suggests in the strongest terms imaginable that the gun was being put into Sheila's body and taken off, and put back on the body and taken off again, and put back on the body and taken off...


Its worth noting that this window was only a few feet away from Julia Jeapes at a time when there was a considerable amount of sunlight as it was summer. No Photographs of the box room window from the inside of the room has ever been disclosed to my understanding. If there is nothing in those photos that resemble a rifle then it would be very significant.

[mike tesko]

The photograph of the anshuzt rifle leaning at the main bedroom window (photograph no.23) was not taken by PC Bird, despite him claiming to have done so, whilst testifying at Bambers trial! PC Bird did not take any photographs of the rifle other than those which show the same rifle in Sheila Caffell's possession after 11.00am, commencing with photograph No.27...

Photographs 26, 25, 24, 23, 22, etc were photographs which had been taken by DC Oakey / DC Henderson between 9.00am and 10.00am, at least one hour before PC Bird got to take his first crime scene photograph - therefore, Cook could not have removed the rifle from Sheila's body as he claims to have done, and it couldn't have been placed at the main bedroom window as contended by Cook, because Cook and the second SOCO including PC Bird were never in a position to involve Cook or PC Bird placing the anshuzt rifle there at the main bedroom window as captured in photograph No.23...

Cook and PC Bird are shameless liars in claiming they both had something to do with the rifle being photographed at the bedroom window, but they couldn't have had any input to this...

[David1819]

The cops shot Sheila, there can be no doubt whatsoever about that fact!

How can this be proven.

It cant be proven because its proven wrong.


Sheila had two contact wounds from a .22lr gun under her chin. This not only demonstrates that she took her own life it also rules out the police shooting her because they had no .22lr weapons on them.

Lets compare the power of the ammunition in Sheila's rifle (.22lr ) to that in of the ammunition in Mildenhalls rifle (.223)






Had Sheila been shot with the .223 the crime scene photos will look very different. And she will certainly not survive one shot to the neck. It would almost take her head off.

By no stretch of the imagination did any of the weapons used by the police get fired on Sheila.

[mike tesko]

It cant be proven because its proven wrong. No, it's not..


Sheila had two contact wounds from a .22lr gun under her chin. This not only demonstrates that she took her own life Sheila did not take her own life, she was shot twice by the police, shot once downstairs in the kitchen with a bullet from the mysterious rifle that was apparently captured in one of DC Oakey / DC Hendersons crime scene photograph which officers were told not to refer to it in their notes, reports or witness statements. That second rifle played a significant role in the original shooting of Sheila Caffell in the kitchen, it fired the original PV/20 bullet into her neck during a struggle between a police officer and Sheila as the cops entered the kitchen. The order with which the two bodies was mentioned and referred to in the timed police radio message log contents, confirms that when entry was made to the kitchen that the first body they came upon was the body of Neville Bamber, followed by what was believed to be the body of one dead female, that female was Sheila Caffell. Officially the shooting of Sheila on that occasion was presented as a suicide, where she appeared to have pulled the barrel of the rifle during the struggle in towards her own neck deliberately, hence why by 7.45am cops were referring to her death as a suicide.it also rules out the police shooting her because they had no .22lr weapons on them. You don't know whether or not the police had any .22 calibre weapons on them, Essex police refused to disclose any information regarding all the weapons used at the seige by around 20 different firearm officers. They also refused to disclose information about individual allocations of ammunition to individual officers, or to confirm or deny that when weapons and ammunitions were returned to the force armoury that there was a shortfall, or otherwise, of ammunition.

Lets compare the power of the ammunition in Sheila's rifle (.22lr ) to that in of the ammunition in Mildenhalls rifle (.223) the .223 ruger rifle that was issued to PC Mildenhall was the only weapon type mentioned as having been issued to any firearms officer involved in the firearms operation, and he was not the first officer to enter the kitchen, PS Woodcock was. Neither you, nor Jeremy, or anybody else knows what type of weapon PS Woodcock had been issued with, or the type and amount of ammunition he was issued, and whether or not there was a short fall at the end of his duty that particular day - the witness statement made out in Woodcocks name, has been tampered with, it has missed page contents, and other page contents which were typed out at a later time, inserted into the body of his statement! The alterations in his statement occur when he deals with entry into the kitchen! You can make of this anything you choose, but the truth is / was that it was PS Woodcock who activated the trigger of the rifle which shot a bullet into Sheila's neck!






Had Sheila been shot with the .223 the crime scene photos will look very different. Sheila was originally shot in the kitchen by PS Woodcock who had his own weapon, this being the rifle captured in at least one of the crime scene photographs taken in the kitchen, which no-one was to make any mention of or about.. And she will certainly not survive one shot to the neck. the contents of the timed police radio message logs, and other timed sources of information, 7.35am, 7.37am, 7.38am, 7.42am, 7.45am, and 8.10am, confirm that Sheila did survive the first shot into her neck, so you must be totally wrong about your own assertions...It would almost take her head off. But that didn't happen, because PC Mildenhall was not the police officer who shot Sheila in the neck in the kitchen, PS Woodcock is that officer...

By no stretch of the imagination did any of the weapons used by the police get fired on Sheila. Of course Sheila was shot by the police, once with use of a rifle downstairs in the kitchen, and on a second occasion, upstairs on the main bedroom floor during Informatives, or if you want during a training exercise that went dramatically wrong. The gun used on the second occasion was the anshuzt rifle from the first floor box room window that cops had brought through into the main bedroom intending to suggest that Sheila had taken her own life with one shot from that rifle. So, the police shot and killed Sheila using the anshuzt rifle, and not a police issue weapon! The first shot didn't kill her, hence why after 8.10am, she was able to recover sufficiently enough to make her own way from the kitchen downstairs to the main bedroom upstairs.

Sheila Caffell could not possibly have shot and killed herself, and already be dead with two bullet wounds to her neck, and she already laid out on the bedroom floor so that firearm officers would find her there when they completed their search of the farmhouse by 8.10am, she being in possession of the anshuzt rifle, because the rifle in question was resting against the inside of the box room window at the time the raid team was commencing its approach to enter the farmhouse! How could Sheila's body have been dead on the main bedroom floor at one and the same time, in possession of 'that' rifle? Not only that, why was there a training exercise (Informatives) and why did cops feel it necessary to stage her death scene as a suicide on the main bedroom floor?

It would be an impossibility, for Sheila upon being shot twice, and rendered instantaneously dead upon receiving the 2nd shot to the neck, for her to place the fingers of one of her hands against the fatal bullet entry wound to try and stop the blood from flowing from the wound, and roll herself into the recovery position on the right side of her body, without the rifle falling off her body, and then roll herself back into the supine position, still grasping the rifle!!

Sheila Caffell did not shoot herself dead there on the main bedroom floor, and do all these things, because she was Dead, incapable of doing any of the things which must have surely happenned after she received the second shot to her neck!

If Sheila had shot and killed herself there would have been no need for the cops to tamper with her body, and the gun, oh and one of the two bullets (PV/20) used to shoot her. The cops tampered with her body, the gun and the bullet, because they were responsible for shooting her dead, and the cops knew that she had been shot by two different guns, and they deliberately made it into a one gun crime in a bid to conceal their involvement in her demise!

[mike tesko]

The sighting of the anshuzt rifle at the first floor box room window, was arguably the highlight of the police operation after their arrival at the scene! WPC Jeapes' saw the rifle there at that window. She pinpoints the time of her sighting to correspond with the fact that the six man raid team had not yet entered the farmhouse! She was located at the corner of WHITESIDE/REDSIDE of the farmhouse, she could see the rifle at the box room window, she could see the officers going towards the external farmhouse door, knowing that they were going to smash the door down using a sledge hammer. She must have seen PC Collins go beyond the door and peer into a ground floor window beyond, and she must have heard the message he relayed back to the Commander in a nearby outbuilding, that he could see the body of a woman behind the door! Well, whilst this was happening was the rifle still at the first floor box room window? Surely, once she had seen the rifle there at that window she would have kept a watchful eye on that rifle, and report whenever, and if ever, someone who was still alive inside the farmhouse moved it? Well, there is no evidence whatsoever that anybody moved that rifle from the box room window, any time sooner than just prior to 8.44am, when according to Dr Craig, he viewed Sheila's body 'on the far side of the bed', with 'a gunshot wound to her neck', and 'a rifle alongside her body'...

Now, PC Collins did not peer into the kitchen window and mistakenly identify Neville Bambers body, as the body of a woman, that suggestion is absurd and totally inaccurate because Collins went beyond the external door and peered in through the Laundry window, and he saw the body of a woman behind the door. The body which he reported seeing was that of a woman, with no chance whatsoever of him mistaking a woman's body, for the body of Neville Bamber, or vice versa, until the door to the farmhouse is smashed in, and only then did he realise that the body he had seen through the Laundry window, was in fact, Neville Bambers body - because Neville Bambers body could not possibly have been seen by PC Collins, or anybody else for that matter when peering through the Laundry window, since Neville Bambers body was in a totally different room and could not be seen by anybody looking or peering through the Laundry window!

More interestingly...

There was no mention of the body of the woman being in possession of a gun, the gun, any gun - the anshuzt rifle was still resting against the box room window, so how does this sighting of the woman's body behind a door as viewed through the Laundry window with someone who could have committed suicide, or even be dead at that time?

[mike tesko]

There was no mention of the body of the woman being in possession of a gun, the gun, any gun - the anshuzt rifle was still resting against the box room window, so how does this sighting of the woman's body behind a door as viewed through the Laundry window with someone who could have committed suicide, or even be dead at that time?

The body of a woman behind the door, as viewed by PC Collins through the Laundry window, was not a reference to the body of Neville Bamber in the kitchen - two entirely different rooms altogether and two entirely different bodies, observed in entirely different circumstances. For example, Neville Bambers body already dead who had been shot a total of 8 times, his body in the kitchen, as opposed to the body of a woman as viewed by Collins through the Laundry room window, with no suggestion that she might be dead, or that she had already been shot, or even that she had possession of a gun, the gun, any gun?

So, what must have happened, is that once the police start striking the door to get into the premises, this must have aroused the woman on the Laundry room floor.

Where did she go?

What did she do?

Since, if she had remained there behind the door in the Laundry room, the police would almost certainly have reported that they had found the body of a dead female, before they eventually entered the kitchen and discovered Neville Bambers body, the police radio messages would have sounded something like 'The body of a dead female, and the body of a dead male found on entry!

But, no the cops use reference to the body of a dead male, followed by a reference to the body of a dead female, and so on, and so forth..

So, this informs us, that the body of the woman seen through the Laundry window, was not dead, that she regained consciousness, and entered the kitchen, and pushed the chairs upon which Neville Bambers body was resting and propped up against the internal kitchen door, and that eventually once the police gradually forced open that door, they came into the kitchen reported the body of a dead male, followed by what they mistakenly thought was the body of a dead female, who had got shot in a frenzied struggle involving PS Woodcock over the control and possession of his weapon..

[mike tesko]

As if altering the body count downstairs (2) and upstairs (3), to 1 and 4 respectively, altering one of the two bullets (PV/20) used in the shooting of Sheila, merging blood found in one silencer, and paint on another, as though there was only one silencer, deliberately ignoring the presence of a rifle downstairs in the kitchen, whilst the anshuzt rifle was resting against a first floor box room window,  explaining how Sheila had not released possession of the rifle when her body was rolled into the recovery position on her right side and back again after she had been shot and killed, yet still managing to end up with the anshuzt rifle on top of her body with the barrel end of the gun close to both entry wounds on her neck, and her right hand resting on top of the gun near to the trigger mechanism, wasn't enough to prove that Sheila did not kill herself, or fall spontaneously into the position which PC Bird (SOCO) photographed her body in after 11.00am, the other major inconsistencies, such as although the 5 victims had been shot a total of 25 times, there existed a 26th and a 27th bullet as part of this police investigation, but officially only 25 spent cartridge cases two bullet cases missing, or absent! Items of evidential value, had several contradictory exhibit references, the silencer, SBJ/1, SJ/1, DB/1, DRB/1 a prime example, two different silencers handed over by two different relatives on two separate dates, a month a part, relatives saying they only ever handed over one silencer, cops saying they only received one silencer, Lab' experts saying they only examined one silencer, only one silencer as court exhibit No.9...

[mike tesko]

As if altering the body count downstairs (2) and upstairs (3), to 1 and 4 respectively, altering one of the two bullets (PV/20) used in the shooting of Sheila, merging blood found in one silencer, and paint on another, as though there was only one silencer, deliberately ignoring the presence of a rifle downstairs in the kitchen, whilst the anshuzt rifle was resting against a first floor box room window,  explaining how Sheila had not released possession of the rifle when her body was rolled into the recovery position on her right side and back again after she had been shot and killed, yet still managing to end up with the anshuzt rifle on top of her body with the barrel end of the gun close to both entry wounds on her neck, and her right hand resting on top of the gun near to the trigger mechanism, wasn't enough to prove that Sheila did not kill herself, or fall spontaneously into the position which PC Bird (SOCO) photographed her body in after 11.00am, the other major inconsistencies, such as although the 5 victims had been shot a total of 25 times, there existed a 26th and a 27th bullet as part of this police investigation, but officially only 25 spent cartridge cases two bullet cases missing, or absent! Items of evidential value, had several contradictory exhibit references, the silencer, SBJ/1, SJ/1, DB/1, DRB/1 a prime example, two different silencers handed over by two different relatives on two separate dates, a month a part, relatives saying they only ever handed over one silencer, cops saying they only received one silencer, Lab' experts saying they only examined one silencer, only one silencer as court exhibit No.9...

Involvement of the first team of SOCO in recording the position of the bodies at 9.00am, and the repositioning of the bodies by 10.00am, as set and staged by the police themselves whilst performing duties known as 'informatives', which basically was a training exercise, whereby the original raid team, re-entered the farmhouse with only Neville Bambers body downstairs in the kitchen, and the other four victims were already upstairs. In particular, the bodies of June Bamber and Sheila Caffell' already insitu on the main bedroom floor, Sheila shot twice by tgat stage and she being in possession of the rifle - a re-enactment of the entry into the farmhouse took place, consistent with what firearm officers state happenned when they eventually got into the farmhouse for the second time (hence why none of the events whereby they find a body has any timing against it! The witness statement account describes the re-enactment of the entry and the discovery of the five bodies as set under the authority of senior officers who controlled who got moved here, and there! But the true position where the bodies had originally been confronted with or found is covered in the police radio message logs, and all relevant entries timed!

[Adam]

The other startling fact is that the diagram of the upstairs and downstairs rooms inside the farmhouse drawn by Jeremy Bamber at the scene at the request of the firearm officers, was clearly marked with designated colour code for each side of the farmhouse, as follows:-

Of particular interest and concern, is that side of the farmhouse, at ground level, which incorporates The LOUNGE, DRINKS ROOM, KITCHEN and LAUNDRY - are all rooms which are situated on 'WHITESIDE' of the building. Furthermore, That that side of the farmhouse which includes only The LOUNGE and The DININING ROOM was allocated 'REDSIDE' of the building. At the corner of the farmhouse where WHITESIDE meets REDSIDE there is the outer corner of The LOUNGE...

This is very important, because it has a bearing upon the window through which police officers who were part of the original six man raid party, reported that they could see the body of a woman behind the door, which could only have been the body of Sheila Caffell, and not as since been claimed to have been the mistaken identity of Neville Bambers body for a dead female, since the body of the woman and Neville Bambers body were seen or found in different rooms on WHITESIDE of the premises...

That is an interesting diagram Mike. Sheila was sleeping literally feet away from the main bedroom. So easy for Jeremy to get her there.

Where Sheila was found was the shortest journey from her bedroom & nearest available location for Bamber to get her to.

Sheila would have been manouvered to where June's body was, if June was not already there. So the second nearest option was taken.

People say Sheila would have shot herself in the twins room. There was enough room on the bedroom floor as the twins remained in bed.  However that was a much longer distance for Jeremy to move her to. 

[mike tesko]

That is an interesting diagram Mike. Sheila was sleeping literally feet away from the main bedroom. So easy for Jeremy to get her there.

Where Sheila was found was the shortest journey from her bedroom & nearest available location for Bamber to get her to.

Sheila would have been manouvered to where June's body was, if June was not already there. So the second nearest option was taken.

People say Sheila would have shot herself in the twins room. There was enough room on the bedroom floor as the twins remained in bed.  However that was a much longer distance for Jeremy to move her to.
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I mention the colour coded sides of the farmhouse, (W, R, B and W), simply to illustrate exactly where WPC Jeapes' was standing when (a) she saw the anshuzt rifle resting at the 1st floor box room window, and (b) to confirm that she took up that position from PC Alexander-Smart, PC Collins, and PC Delgado, who were standing at the corner of WHITESIDE/REDSIDE who were members of the raid team that went to try and enter the farmhouse via the locked external door on WHITESIDE!

JEAPES was therefore providing cover from an area at the corner of the farmhouse where WHITESIDE meets REDSIDE in the diagram. Alexander-Smart, Collins and Delgado had left that position and gone towards the aforementioned doorway. It is important for everyone to remember these facts, because in terms of direction, the raid team set off to try and enter the farmhouse by the external door located on WHITESIDE, having travelled there from the corner of the premises where WHITESIDE meets REDSIDE, or in other words at the external corner of the building where the lounge was / is...

The raid team, left the corner of WHITESIDE / REDSIDE, walked along WHITESIDE of the premises in the general direction where the corner of WHITESIDE / GREEN SIDE meet one another!

Of interest to all of is, is the particular approach that was made by two of the six man raid party, PC Collins and PC Delgado, who were the only two officers in the six man group, to actually go beyond the door on WHITESIDE, to the next ground floor window which turns out to be the Laundry window, not the kitchen window. The other four members of the raid team had remained outside the aforementioned door, whilst both PC Collins, and PC Delgado tentatively peered through the window of the Laundry, and reported that they could see 'The body of a woman'..

Collins and Delgado could not see into the kitchen whilst peering into the premises from the vantage point of that Laundry window, and it is with 100% certainty that neither of them would have been able to see the body of Neville Bamber or even for either of them individually, or collectively, mistake Neville Bambers body for that of a woman's body (as alleged in false witness statements made by both of them)! In other words, Collins and Delgado did see the body of a woman when they looked in through the Laundry window, they saw a woman's body behind the door! The question remains, as to 'which door' they were referring to? What seems almost certain to me, is that they saw the body of a woman behind the external farmhouse door that police wanted to force open. They couldn't possible see beyond the inner door which led from the passageway beyond that door, which was hinged on the left hand side of that internal door, because that door was closed, or at best only partially open, with the opening edge of that door, being on the right hand side of that door! In order to fully understand the difficulty that both PC Collins and PC Delgado had of seeing the body of Neville Bamber in the kitchen whilst they were both looking through the Laundry window, you will need to refer to the following Crime Scene photograph, and ground floor plan of the farmhouse, which shows the Laundry window, the external door and the kitchen window  so that you can be as sure as I am, that Collins and Delgado could not possibly, and did not mistake Neville Bambers body in the kitchen, for the body of a woman when they both looked into the room beyond the Laundry window!

Please bear with me...

[maggie]

That is an interesting diagram Mike. Sheila was sleeping literally feet away from the main bedroom. So easy for Jeremy to get her there.

Where Sheila was found was the shortest journey from her bedroom & nearest available location for Bamber to get her to.

Sheila would have been manouvered to where June's body was, if June was not already there. So the second nearest option was taken.

People say Sheila would have shot herself in the twins room. There was enough room on the bedroom floor as the twins remained in bed.  However that was a much longer distance for Jeremy to move her to.

Some people do say Sheila would have shot herself in the twins room but that is simply their opinion, it is not fact.  Sheila was actually found on the floor close to the door leading to the boys room which was beyond the main bedroom.  That doesnt prove anything either.

[mike tesko]

. They couldn't possible see beyond the inner door which led from the passageway beyond that door, which was hinged on the left hand side of that internal door, because that door was closed, or at best only partially open, with the opening edge of that door, being on the right hand side of that door! In order to fully understand the difficulty that both PC Collins and PC Delgado had of seeing the body of Neville Bamber in the kitchen whilst they were both looking through the Laundry window, you will need to refer to the following Crime Scene photograph, and ground floor plan of the farmhouse, which shows the Laundry window, the external door and the kitchen window  so that you can be as sure as I am, that Collins and Delgado could not possibly, and did not mistake Neville Bambers body in the kitchen, for the body of a woman when they both looked into the room beyond the Laundry window!

Please bear with me...

PC Collins and PC Delgado had left their position at the corner of WHITESIDE / REDSIDE with PC Alexander-Smart, and gone with three other members of the raid party towards the external door on WHITESIDE. WPC Jeapes', had replaced them at that corner of the building, she covering two sides of the farmhouse, WHITESIDE and REDSIDE. Jeapes' could see the rifle at the first floor box room window on WHITESIDE, and she had an alternative view along the front of the farmhouse on REDSIDE of the same property! She saw the raid team making its approach toward the door which had been targeted for entry into the premises. For the purpose of being precise, it should be pointed out that of interest to this particular blunder is the fact that at the heart of the claim that the body of a woman seen through a Laundry window, was mistakenly identified as the body of a woman, but which after entry to the premises had been affected, it turned out to be the body of Neville Bamber, involves the following locations, (a) the corner of WHITESIDE /REDSIDE, (b) a view into a kitchen window, (c) a door,  and  (d) a view into a Laundry room window, and (e) the route taken by PC Collins and PC Delgado, from a starting position at (a), to the kitchen window at (b), beyond there to the external door at (c), and eventually, beyond the aforementioned door to the Laundry window at (d)...

The other four raid team members only went as far as the external door on WHITESIDE at (c)...

The facts alluded to here by me, establish beyond any question of doubt that PC Collins and PC Delgado could not possibly have seen Neville Bambers body in the kitchen whilst they looked into the room beyond the Laundry window, and therefore, they could not possibly have mistaken Neville Bambers body for the body of a woman on any occasion prior to anyone entering the farmhouse, and the so called imaginary claim that they realised a mistake had been made once they eventually got into the kitchen, stating that the body they had seen which they referred to as the body of a woman, was in fact (no it wasn't) the body of Neville Bamber!

Now this is where it starts to get very interesting...

[mike tesko]

PC Collins and PC Delgado had left their position at the corner of WHITESIDE / REDSIDE with PC Alexander-Smart, and gone with three other members of the raid party towards the external door on WHITESIDE. WPC Jeapes', had replaced them at that corner of the building, she covering two sides of the farmhouse, WHITESIDE and REDSIDE. Jeapes' could see the rifle at the first floor box room window on WHITESIDE, and she had an alternative view along the front of the farmhouse on REDSIDE of the same property! She saw the raid team making its approach toward the door which had been targeted for entry into the premises. For the purpose of being precise, it should be pointed out that of interest to this particular blunder is the fact that at the heart of the claim that the body of a woman seen through a Laundry window, was mistakenly identified as the body of a woman, but which after entry to the premises had been affected, it turned out to be the body of Neville Bamber, involves the following locations, (a) the corner of WHITESIDE /REDSIDE, (b) a view into a kitchen window, (c) a door,  and  (d) a view into a Laundry room window, and (e) the route taken by PC Collins and PC Delgado, from a starting position at (a), to the kitchen window at (b), beyond there to the external door at (c), and eventually, beyond the aforementioned door to the Laundry window at (d)...

The other four raid team members only went as far as the external door on WHITESIDE at (c)...

The facts alluded to here by me, establish beyond any question of doubt that PC Collins and PC Delgado could not possibly have seen Neville Bambers body in the kitchen whilst they looked into the room beyond the Laundry window, and therefore, they could not possibly have mistaken Neville Bambers body for the body of a woman on any occasion prior to anyone entering the farmhouse, and the so called imaginary claim that they realised a mistake had been made once they eventually got into the kitchen, stating that the body they had seen which they referred to as the body of a woman, was in fact (no it wasn't) the body of Neville Bamber!

Now this is where it starts to get very interesting...

I have established the perfect alibi thus confirming that (a) Jeremy Bamber did not kill his sister Sheila Caffell, (b) he did not shoot her, (c) the use of a silencer or otherwise in the circumstances of his sister's death have no bearing on any involvement he could have had in that death, (d) Sheila Caffell was almost certainly the woman that was seen through the Laundry window, and because her body ended up eventually on the main bedroom floor with two bullet entry wounds to her neck, and she being in possession of a family owned rifle, that the sighting of Sheila through the Laundry window establishes that Sheila was still alive until or shortly after, the firearm officers smashed open the external doorway to the farmhouse with a total of five sledge hammer blows...

Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang! and Bang!

[Adam]

Some people do say Sheila would have shot herself in the twins room but that is simply their opinion, it is not fact.  Sheila was actually found on the floor close to the door leading to the boys room which was beyond the main bedroom.  That doesnt prove anything either.

I did not say it proved anything ?

I don't need to prove anything as have already posted 70 pieces of 'sourced' evidence.

I just said to Mike it is interesting that Sheila was found at the nearest location to where she had been sleeping, bare footed in her nightie. Which was the easiest location for Bamber to get her to.