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Offline Nuala

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Not relavant to colour coding..

But we now have Bamber either vomiting (or at least appearing to vomit ), blaming the raid team members for the deaths and crying (but not distraught).  Sounds like he genuinely needed that cigarette?

Not to mention a husband and wife armed police act... or brother & sister?



I've read that Jeremy stated that the whiskey he was given made him feel sick. He tried to vomit it up, but was unable to vomit.


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W/Ps Julia Jeapes describes seeing a rifle at the box room window, which is three panes wide. The photo of the rifle at the window is the parents bedroom window, which is four panes wide. So we have two windows with two different rifles, or two windows with the same rifle at different times? Hmmm...
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W/Ps Julia Jeapes describes seeing a rifle at the box room window, which is three panes wide. The photo of the rifle at the window is the parents bedroom window, which is four panes wide. So we have two windows with two different rifles, or two windows with the same rifle at different times? Hmmm...

There was only one rifle found upstairs, at one time or another, 'it' was (a) resting against the inside of a first floor box room window, as seen by WPC Julia Jeapes, followed by (b) 'it' being photographed resting at the main bedroom window, a crime scene photograph (no.23) taken in sequential order, or in other words, 'it' was photographed resting against the inside of the main bedroom window prior to the first photograph taken of Sheila Caffells body on the main bedroom floor in possession of 'it (which was photograph No.25), at a time when she now had got two bullet entry wounds to her neck...
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There was only one rifle found upstairs, at one time or another, 'it' was (a) resting against the inside of a first floor box room window, as seen by WPC Julia Jeapes, followed by (b) 'it' being photographed resting at the main bedroom window, a crime scene photograph (no.23) taken in sequential order, or in other words, 'it' was photographed resting against the inside of the main bedroom window prior to the first photograph taken of Sheila Caffells body on the main bedroom floor in possession of 'it (which was photograph No.25), at a time when she now had got two bullet entry wounds to her neck...

The correct sequence involving the whereabouts of the rifle, is as follows:-

(1) Resting against first floor box room window, as seen by WPC Julia Jeapes

(2) Used to inflict second fatal shot, to Sheila's neck once her body had been moved off top of bed and placed on the floor

(3) Removed from Sheila's body and placed at the main bedroom window, as per Crime Scene Photograph No.23

(4) Repositioned back on top of Sheila's body during 'informatives'

(5) photographed in possession of Sheila (No's 25, 33) taken by DC Oakey / DC Henderson, who were the first SOCO's permitted into the farmhouse, they took photographs and a crime scene video, between 9.00am and 10.00am, when the bodies of victims were differently positioned

(6) photographed in possession of Sheila Caffell (No's 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32) taken by PC Bird, who was the photographer belonging to the second SOCO's, who started to taken photographs of the bodies, in particular, the position and location of Sheila's body, at and from 11.00am, onwards...
« Last Edit: September 18, 2018, 01:54:AM by mike tesko »
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Either side of the first floor (b) box room, on 'White Side' of the premises is (a) the main bedroom, and (c) the Children's bedroom. Access to all three rooms is provided by use of two internal doors...
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There was only one rifle found upstairs, at one time or another, 'it' was (a) resting against the inside of a first floor box room window, as seen by WPC Julia Jeapes, followed by (b) 'it' being photographed resting at the main bedroom window, a crime scene photograph (no.23) taken in sequential order, or in other words, 'it' was photographed resting against the inside of the main bedroom window prior to the first photograph taken of Sheila Caffells body on the main bedroom floor in possession of 'it (which was photograph No.25), at a time when she now had got two bullet entry wounds to her neck...

The following must be true:-

At the time WPC Jeapes saw the rifle at (a), it also could not already have been resting on top of Sheila Caffells body on the floor of the main bedroom, at one and the same time, neither could it have been resting against the other window at (b)...
« Last Edit: September 18, 2018, 01:59:AM by mike tesko »
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The police did not find Sheila Caffells body laid on the main bedroom floor in possession of the riffle, with she already having two bullet wounds to her neck, there is ample evidence available which places her body in different locations in and around the farmhouse, before her body was staged as a suicide on the bedroom floor!

(1) Sheila was downstairs in the kitchen at the moment when the firearm officers forced entry into the premises

(2) Sheila's body was 'On the far side of the bed' at 8.44am, with what appeared to be a bullet entry wound to her neck, when Dr Craig pronounced her as being dead

(3) Sheila's body was laid on top of the bed at 9.05am alongside the body of June Bamber, there was a rifle laid on the bed in between both bodies, and Sheila had a bible on her chest. Sheila only had one bullet wound entry to her neck at this time

(4) The bodies were moved, one by one, onto the floor, June Bamber first, then Sheila. Junes body placed on the floor to the right of the bed by the main bedroom door, Sheila's body placed on the floor to the left of the bed, by the corresponding bedside cabinet and internal door which leads to the box room, and the Children's bedroom beyond that
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The other startling fact is that the diagram of the upstairs and downstairs rooms inside the farmhouse drawn by Jeremy Bamber at the scene at the request of the firearm officers, was clearly marked with designated colour code for each side of the farmhouse, as follows:-

Of particular interest and concern, is that side of the farmhouse, at ground level, which incorporates The LOUNGE, DRINKS ROOM, KITCHEN and LAUNDRY - are all rooms which are situated on 'WHITESIDE' of the building. Furthermore, That that side of the farmhouse which includes only The LOUNGE and The DININING ROOM was allocated 'REDSIDE' of the building. At the corner of the farmhouse where WHITESIDE meets REDSIDE there is the outer corner of The LOUNGE...

This is very important, because it has a bearing upon the window through which police officers who were part of the original six man raid party, reported that they could see the body of a woman behind the door, which could only have been the body of Sheila Caffell, and not as since been claimed to have been the mistaken identity of Neville Bambers body for a dead female, since the body of the woman and Neville Bambers body were seen or found in different rooms on WHITESIDE of the premises...
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WPC Jeapes was standing close to the corner of WHITESIDE / REDSIDE, she was stood near to some outbuildings taking cover, and she saw the six man raid team making its approach towards the rear court yard door where they intended to force entry into the premises - the raid team approached the door from the corner of WHITESIDE / REDSIDE, or vice versa, and went past the first ground floor window on their right hand side which was The KITCHEN, and paused at the door, but two officers went beyond that door on WHITESIDE, and peered into the next window beyond the door, this room is what Jeremy Bamber describes in his diagram that he gave to the police, as The LAUNDRY room...

The body of a woman seen by these two officers in that room could not have been June Bambers, who was almost certainly already dead upstairs on the bed in her own bedroom, she had been shot a total of 7 times. The only person that that female body could have been was Sheila Caffells. There is no possibility that Cops mistook Neville Bambers body for that of a dead female because the two bodies were in completely separate rooms on WHITESIDE, as described...

An internal door situated between the back passage and the KITCHEN separated the two bodies, one body on either side of that internal door, so it was impossible for anyone to mistake one of the bodies for the other body...
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As soon as the police started trying to smash down the external farmhouse door with a sledge hammer, it is understood that the woman who had been presumed dead, became alerted and managed to get beyond the internal door into the kitchen, after which she closed the door behind her. Once inside the kitchen, she shoved Neville Bambers body which was sat on one of the large wooden kitchen chairs up against the inside of that internal door, and placed a secondary wooden chair directly in front of him to support his weight and to prevent his body slumping forward. It is understood that she then lensed her own body weight combined with Neville Bambers body mass behind the door which initially caused the police some problem, it effectively delayed their entry into The KITCHEN...
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As soon as the police started trying to smash down the external farmhouse door with a sledge hammer, it is understood that the woman who had been presumed dead, became alerted and managed to get beyond the internal door into the kitchen, after which she closed the door behind her. Once inside the kitchen, she shoved Neville Bambers body which was sat on one of the large wooden kitchen chairs up against the inside of that internal door, and placed a secondary wooden chair directly in front of him to support his weight and to prevent his body slumping forward. It is understood that she then lensed her own body weight combined with Neville Bambers body mass behind the door which initially caused the police some problem, it effectively delayed their entry into The KITCHEN...

The fact that by a reliance upon the contents of timed police radio message logs there were two bodies present inside the KITCHEN upon entry, makes it impossible for Sheila to have already been dead upstairs on the main bedroom floor, in possession of the rifle, which minutes before the police broke into the house, had been resting against a first floor bedroom window. The uniquely timed references to their being two bodies, the body of a dead male and the body of one dead female, in the kitchen, a murder and a suicide (7.35am, 7.37am, 7.38am, 7.42am, 7.45am, and 8.10am) and a further three bodies found upstairs, is undisclosed evidence which lends itself to the truth in this matter..
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Why would Essex police deliberately conceal the contents of all these timed police radio message logs, if there had only been one body found downstairs in the KITCHEN?
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Why would Essex police deliberately conceal the contents of all these timed police radio message logs, if there had only been one body found downstairs in the KITCHEN?

How and in what circumstances, could the police keep making the same repeated mistake of misidentifying a body for two different ones on each of the occasions that key timed messages were being passed after the police had already entered the KITCHEN and been in the house for some 40 minutes or so? They can't even get their stories right about which window the female body was seen through, without altering the colour coding for the sides of the farmhouse, so that they can falsely say that the two officers who had gone beyond the external entry door, and peered into the room at the next window could see a dead female body behind the door! The lie they have told only serving to wash over the fact that when the police got into the farmhouse they were confronted by two bodies, not one. They use the fact that the sighting of the dead female took place inside the KITCHEN where Neville Bambers body was present, and that a mistake was made as to the sex of the body, because of a sighting from outside a window made before entry had been made to the premises, and once the police managed to get into the KITCHEN, but this is not borne out once the police arrive in the kitchen, because the dialogue then becomes Two bodies at a time when the police are actually inside the KITCHEN, the body of one dead male, and the body of one dead female, one dead male, one dead female, a murder, and a suicide, all mentioned and known about on timed occurrences between 7.35am and 7.45am! And, to cap it all off, only a further three bodies found upstairs by 8.10am...

The police couldn't have made all these timed blunders, one after the other, once the firearm officers had entered the KITCHEN, and were already inside it...
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Then we need to question why there was such a lengthy delay, between all five bodies being accounted for (two bodies downstairs in kitchen, other three bodies upstairs) by 8.10am, and the fact that PC Bird (2nd SOCO team) was not permitted to enter the farmhouse and take photographs of Sheila Caffells body until 11.00am, considering that he arrived at the scene along with Detective Inspector Cook at 9.20am?

What took place in the intervening two hours and 50 minutes, between 8.10am and 11.00am, that the jury and everybody else needs to know about?
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Then we need to question why there was such a lengthy delay, between all five bodies being accounted for (two bodies downstairs in kitchen, other three bodies upstairs) by 8.10am, and the fact that PC Bird (2nd SOCO team) was not permitted to enter the farmhouse and take photographs of Sheila Caffells body until 11.00am, considering that he arrived at the scene along with Detective Inspector Cook at 9.20am?

What took place in the intervening two hours and 50 minutes, between 8.10am and 11.00am, that the jury and everybody else needs to know about?

Jeremy Bamber was prosecuted by a reliance on photographs taken by PC Bird (2nd SOCO team), with the exception of three photographs (No's 23, 25 and 33), that had been taken by DC Oakey (1st SOCO team), who along with DC Henderson had been performing photographic and video recording duties up until about 10.00am at the scene...

Nobody knew much about the use of two different teams of SOCO used inside the farmhouse, recording the locations and positions of the bodies of victims, at different stages of the police investigation that particular first morning...

If all the photographs, and video footage of the various crime scenes as recorded inside the farmhouse, that were taken by DC Oakey, DC Henderson and PC Bird had been disclosed and shown to the jury, there would have been no doubt who had staged Sheila Caffells death scene on the bedroom floor as a suicide, and the person who staged her death scene there in possession of the rifle from the first floor box room window - police staged Sheila Caffells death scene on the bedroom floor as a suicide, no-one else was or could have been involved...

Ask yourselves, why would the police go to all these lengths if Sheila had taken her own life, or if someone else had killed her?
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