Mindset of Jeremy Bamber, at time he was informed, that all his family was dead

[Jan]

He says he didn't dial 999 because he didn't think it would make difference how quickly the police arrived.

What would have made a difference was not spending up to 26 minutes looking for two numbers. When he could have just dialled 999.

that totally depends on whose timings you believe . The timings were all changed remember by the police as well - by a whole 10 mins.

[Adam]

that totally depends on whose timings you believe . The timings were all changed remember by the police as well - by a whole 10 mins.

What timings were changed by the police ?

There is one digit different to Bonnet and West's logs. Jeremy using it to claim Neville called them.

Anyway Jeremy spending 16/26 minutes looking for numbers and ringing Julie wastes a lot of time, compared to dialling 999.

[scipio_usmc]

so it begs the question - if JB is guilty why would he lie to the police about phoning Witham and then deny it?

If he is innocent and telling the truth - then why would EP want everyone to think there was a call to Witham from someone?

What is so difficult to comprehend?  West said that Jeremy told him he called Witham first but got no answer.  Several police who met Jeremy as the scene also said that Jeremy told them he called Witham first but got no answer.  They have no reason to lie, it is obvious he told them he called Witham first.

At the trial he denied calling Witham and in the process revealed himself to be a liar.

He either never called Witham and lied to those multiple police that he initially told he called Witham or he called Witham as he told them but then he lied under oath at his trial.

At the time he told the claim to West and other police Jeremy had no way to know that no one was at Witham the only way he would know for sure was to call and get no answer so he clearly called Witham and lied about it at his trial.

He lied about it at his trial because it looked quite bad to get no response then try looking up another number instead of dialing 999.   

[Adam]

There is a thread on whether Jeremy called Witham. Or not.

[Adam]

Jeremy testified he did not phone Witham.

[Jan]

There is a thread on whether Jeremy called Witham. Or not.

I know. Caroline bought it up again.

[Alias]

There is a thread on whether Jeremy called Witham. Or not.

Adam, this board has been here for years and years, there are threads on everything!

[Stephanie]

'it was them that killed them'... 'those men with the guns'  was Jeremy's initial recation to being informed his family had been killed. 

Try to imagine this situation being played out in real time...

Wouldn't it have made more sense for him to make some kind of remark about Sheila??

This is a man who has been found guilty of a planned execution, in which he has tried to frame his sister by stage managing the scene to make it look like she carried out the killings and then committed suicide.  Apparently, he's already (clumsily) laid the groundwork for this scenario by telling the police Sheila is a "nutter" and has got hold of his dad's gun.....   

So....

Why is his initial reaction at the scene to blame the TFU?

Another Freudian slip it appears.

[Steve_uk]

One other minor detail: Jeremy couldn't remember his sister's married name,and by association his nephews' surnames. Did they all mean so little to him..

[Stephanie]

Maybe another thread needs starting re 'Freudian slips 2?' Or should a list be compiled to see how many were indeed made in total?

[Stephanie]

One other minor detail: Jeremy couldn't remember his sister's married name,and by association his nephews' surnames. Did they all mean so little to him..

Where is the evidence to support this, only there's so much information on the forum, it's difficult to find anything.

[scipio_usmc]

Where is the evidence to support this, only there's so much information on the forum, it's difficult to find anything.

West's court testimony

[Steve_uk]

Thanks Scipio. He made a statement that Jeremy couldn't remember her surname when he telephoned Police initially. http://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5895.30.msg263145.html#msg263145

[Stephanie]

Thanks guys.

He doesn't recall important personal details but doesn't seem to find any difficulty plugging her 'mental health' issues......

"His voice had became progressively more urgent and excitable" (page 3)

How did he know who was in the house?

[scipio_usmc]

Thanks guys.

He doesn't recall important personal details but doesn't seem to find any difficulty plugging her 'mental health' issues......

"His voice had became progressively more urgent and excitable" (page 3)

How did he know who was in the house?

He knew his sister and nephews were staying over.  West doesn't recall Jeremy mentioning them but West didn't prep for his testimony so maybe he was just wrong about that aspect and forgot.