Author Topic: Who told Julie about the kitchen window prior to 7th September 1985?  (Read 2745 times)

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Offline Adam

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The 3 options are -

Jeremy

The relatives.

The police.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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This relates to the kitchen window being able to be banged shut from outside.

Jeremy had an 18 month window where he could tell her.

The relatives either had no window or a very narrow window. Depending on when they found out & whether they could contact Julie.

The police had a window of a few hours. This was on the 7th September 1985 when Julie was writing her WS.
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There is no reason why the relatives would tell Julie. She was Jeremy's GF. Pre internet they would also have difficulty locating her as she was constantly travelling.

The police telling her & then telling her to include it in her WS, then tell her to leave MM in it, does not make sense.

Jeremy would have been pleased he had found such a window pre massacre. So would want to tell someone. This is what Julie's WS says.
« Last Edit: February 06, 2026, 09:58:AM by Adam »
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Jeremy. Can't see why she would have learned it from the police or relatives.

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EP met Julie on the 7th August. This was with Jeremy when she did her first WS. EP did not know about the kitchen window then.

She met EP again on the 7th September. This was to give her 23 page WS. This was the polices opportunity to tell her about the kitchen window. Although I do not know why EP then told her to put MM in her WS.
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Hopefully someone can compile a time scale between the 7th August - 7th September. Where the relatives find out about the kitchen window, then track Julie down and tell her about it.

A reason why the relatives would want to do this needs to be given.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2026, 12:36:PM by Adam »
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Hopefully someone can compile a time scale between the 7th August - 7th September. Where the relatives find out about the kitchen window, then track Julie down and tell her about it.

A reason why the relatives would want to do this needs to be given.
Well we know it was the relatives who told the police about the kitchen window, Adam!
In fact they gave the police the whole scenario including Junes bike. Funny how Julie came up with the same scenario a few weeks later, isn't it?

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Well we know it was the relatives who told the police about the kitchen window, Adam!
In fact they gave the police the whole scenario including Junes bike. Funny how Julie came up with the same scenario a few weeks later, isn't it?

So you think the relatives told Julie before the 7th September. They have never said that.

When do you think they did this? Julie was with Jeremy from the 7th - 27th August in different parts of the country or in Amsterdam. From the 27th August she was in London. Sometimes with Jeremy.

Why would the relatives tell Julie?
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So you think the relatives told Julie before the 7th September. They have never said that.

When do you think they did this? Julie was with Jeremy from the 7th - 27th August in different parts of the country or in Amsterdam. From the 27th August she was in London. Sometimes with Jeremy.

Why would the relatives tell Julie?
I didn't say that, Adam! It may have been the police that told Julie about the window, or maybe she just made it up? I have no idea!

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Hopefully someone can compile a time scale between the 7th August - 7th September. Where the relatives find out about the kitchen window, then track Julie down and tell her about it.

A reason why the relatives would want to do this needs to be given.

Its well documented that Ann Eaton and Robert Boutflour spoke told PC Barlow about about the kitchen window and showed him how they could close it from the outside.

The reason is simple, money.

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Re: Who told Julie about the kitchen window prior to 7th September 1985?
« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2026, 08:35:AM »
The 3 options are -

Jeremy

The relatives.

The police.

You have overlooked the fourth: DS Jones.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Who told Julie about the kitchen window prior to 7th September 1985?
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2026, 08:37:AM »
Its well documented that Ann Eaton and Robert Boutflour spoke told PC Barlow about about the kitchen window and showed him how they could close it from the outside.

The reason is simple, money.

Yes.  PE cut a deal with DS Jones on 12th Aug when he collected the silencer.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Who told Julie about the kitchen window prior to 7th September 1985?
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2026, 09:00:AM »
You have overlooked the fourth: DS Jones.

Jones is part of EP.

Do you think Jones told Julie on the 7th September when she wrote her WS?

Why did Jones simultaneously leave MM in her WS?
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Re: Who told Julie about the kitchen window prior to 7th September 1985?
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2026, 09:06:AM »
Its well documented that Ann Eaton and Robert Boutflour spoke told PC Barlow about about the kitchen window and showed him how they could close it from the outside.

The reason is simple, money.

They told Barlow because they suspected Bamber and saw it was a way for him to exit & shut the window from outside.

Money was an issue. The relatives didn't believe he deserved it.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.