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Re: Much ado about nothing...
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2025, 09:29:AM »
Thanks Roch, If Rowe wasn’t the call-taker, who was then,  A 999 call couldn’t bypass the operator in the 1980s, without a direct line from WHF to the police,  and there’s no record of any other operator or is there and the only evidence available shows Jean Rowe made that connection?
As you know Roch I always follow the evidence which is backed up with logs and statements, if there’s something I’m not seeing or privy to, i do apologise for my questioning.

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« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2025, 10:08:AM »
Thanks Roch, If Rowe wasn’t the call-taker, who was then,  A 999 call couldn’t bypass the operator in the 1980s, without a direct line from WHF to the police,  and there’s no record of any other operator or is there and the only evidence available shows Jean Rowe made that connection?
The Guardian said this…. According to Milbank, it was an emergency call on an exchange line, meaning that someone had dialled 999 rather than using the open line.

It doesn’t necessarily mean a 999 call, all it means is a call arriving in the 9s system and consistent with what the logs say.  Millbank never said it was a 999 call.

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« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2025, 10:32:AM »
As with the 'Nevill called Chelmsford police' in 2010, Milbank will create discussion, get Bamber in the media & keep supporters excited. But will be dismissed by the justice system. 

This has been Bamber's life for 40 years.

In this instance it also gives Heidi &The New Yorker publicity. The CT have even started asking for money.
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Re: Much ado about nothing...
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2025, 10:53:AM »
As with the 'Nevill called Chelmsford police' in 2010, Milbank will create discussion, get Bamber in the media & keep supporters excited. But will be dismissed by the justice system. 

This has been Bamber's life for 40 years.

In this instance it also gives Heidi &The New Yorker publicity. The CT have even started asking for money.
At 5.45 the logs say,  Continue to monitor phone at scene + GPO to recheck, this confirms   the line was open, and being monitored and being checked while police were outside trying to make contact, with no sound or speech reported.  Any idea that a 999 call was made and  producing no noise, no operator activity between the OP and Millbank and  no police log would bypass all emergency-call procedures.  Someone would have had to transfer any 999 call to GPO to the incident room and stayed silent for 40 years?  The wording Continue to monitor is crucial in this, meaning it was constantly monitored and any break would have been detected,  not only that, just putting the phone back in the receiver wouldn’t automatically clear to dial out again, it could take minutes to clear, if at all?

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Re: Much ado about nothing...
« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2025, 11:07:AM »
Thanks Roch, If Rowe wasn’t the call-taker, who was then,  A 999 call couldn’t bypass the operator in the 1980s, without a direct line from WHF to the police,  and there’s no record of any other operator or is there and the only evidence available shows Jean Rowe made that connection?

Sorry my post had a few typos. There was a post on here somewhere recently regarding how many operators would be on duty. The fact that Rowe has never been accused of having taken a 999 call may be significant. It may not be significant. TBH, I don't know. Think about it. The campaign are arguing for a 999 call and they have not linked the alleged call to Rowe.
 
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« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2025, 11:15:AM »
Sorry my post had a few typos. There was a post on here somewhere recently regarding how many operators would be on duty. The fact that Rowe has never been accused of having taken a 999 call may be significant. It may not be significant. TBH, I don't know. Think about it. The campaign are arguing for a 999 call and they have not linked the alleged call to Rowe.
Thanks Roch, surely to establish another 999 call they have to identify the Person that took it inside the GPO?  Yes I did see the post about others being on duty and I do I agree there would be others. If they can’t establish this other person though and without that link it falls flat I think Roch?

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Re: Much ado about nothing...
« Reply #36 on: December 12, 2025, 11:31:AM »
At 5.45 the logs say,  Continue to monitor phone at scene + GPO to recheck, this confirms   the line was open, and being monitored and being checked while police were outside trying to make contact, with no sound or speech reported.  Any idea that a 999 call was made and  producing no noise, no operator activity between the OP and Millbank and  no police log would bypass all emergency-call procedures.  Someone would have had to transfer any 999 call to GPO to the incident room and stayed silent for 40 years?  The wording Continue to monitor is crucial in this, meaning it was constantly monitored and any break would have been detected,  not only that, just putting the phone back in the receiver wouldn’t automatically clear to dial out again, it could take minutes to clear, if at all?
Sorry I’d like to correct this, it wasn’t constantly monitored before 5.50 am Jean Rowe does say she disconnected herself once listening in, but after 5.50 am I’m not sure, she never mentions disconnecting herself other than connecting the two up?


At about 5.50 a.m. the same day the came caller come on the phone again and asked 1f it was possible to put this number through to the Police Headquarters to enable then to monitor it. I a not allowed to engage the Direct Energency Police line so I again checked into this  Maldon number and then phoned the Police Headquarters and connected the two thus  enabling the Police to listen to the line.

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Re: Much ado about nothing...
« Reply #37 on: December 12, 2025, 01:02:PM »
Sorry my post had a few typos. There was a post on here somewhere recently regarding how many operators would be on duty. The fact that Rowe has never been accused of having taken a 999 call may be significant. It may not be significant. TBH, I don't know. Think about it. The campaign are arguing for a 999 call and they have not linked the alleged call to Rowe.
Sorry Roch, I meant to ask you, you never followed up my rejection of Burrell’s  statement being a memo?