Breakdown of Sheila's drowsiness in days/hours leading to massacre.

[Adam]

But afaik none of the people you have quoted are experts and none appeared at trial.

Vanezis is an expert who examined the bodies - 3 burn marks'.

But if you think they are internal metal, feel free.

[Jonathan]

He did shoot him 4 times upstairs. Was still breathing.

Don't know why he wouldn't just put more into Nevill's brain. Instead deciding to stand around heating up metal objects

[Adam]

Don't know why he wouldn't just put more into Nevill's brain. Instead deciding to stand around heating up metal objects

Well the crime scene evidence is he did both.

[snow66!]

At trial Dr Vanezis concluded he was unsure about the origins.  He was working under pressure carrying out 5 pm's and concerned with identifying cause of death.  The marks were unimportant in terms of cause of death.  The bodies were cremated before a proper investigation into the marks was undertaken.

Prof Knight gave a detailed account of why he didn't think the marks were burns.  He concluded they came about through prodding with some implement which I agree with.  Prodding from orthapedic hardware from inside out.

Do you mean there was still metal in Nevills back, Cutie? or just some kind of scar tissue?
Wouldn't metal have shown up in x-rays?

[Jane]

Aga questions

Has it been shown that it was in use at the time? Even at the warmest time of the year in the UK.

Was it a coal Aga or another fuel?

It's assumed the Age was on. However, the Bambers' had alternative means of cooking, and it would be reasonable to think they had alternative ways of heating water. Such being so, there'd have been no need to be running the Aga 24 hours a day in the height of summer...........or even at all during summer months. There wasn't likely to be gas laid on. It was an old model so unlikely to have been converted to electric, ergo, there only remains coal or wood.

[David1819]

Do you mean there was still metal in Nevills back, Cutie? or just some kind of scar tissue?
Wouldn't metal have shown up in x-rays?

Full body x-rays were taken. Only metal that was detected were the bullets.

[snow66!]

Full body x-rays were taken. Only metal that was detected were the bullets.

Yes, I think Vanezis would have discovered if there were any internal screws or metal plates in line with the burn marks, Dave!

[Cambridgecutie]

Yes, I think Vanezis would have discovered if there were any internal screws or metal plates in line with the burn marks, Dave!

Wrong!

Location/Technique: Overlapping bone structures (especially in complex areas like the spine) can obscure a clear view of the entire device or adjacent bone. An improper viewing angle or a single X-ray view may also miss a problem.

What are the statistical chances?

NB has back surgery following a plane crash during WW2.

Some 40 years mystery marks appear at the top of his back 

[Adam]

Wrong!

Location/Technique: Overlapping bone structures (especially in complex areas like the spine) can obscure a clear view of the entire device or adjacent bone. An improper viewing angle or a single X-ray view may also miss a problem.

What are the statistical chances?

NB has back surgery following a plane crash during WW2.

Some 40 years mystery marks appear at the top of his back 

X Rays were done.

Concede.

[snow66!]

Wrong!

Location/Technique: Overlapping bone structures (especially in complex areas like the spine) can obscure a clear view of the entire device or adjacent bone. An improper viewing angle or a single X-ray view may also miss a problem.

What are the statistical chances?

NB has back surgery following a plane crash during WW2.

Some 40 years mystery marks appear at the top of his back 

I see Cutie! And is there literature saying they could appear again after death?

[David1819]

Yes, I think Vanezis would have discovered if there were any internal screws or metal plates in line with the burn marks, Dave!

This again? It's the ramblings of a pisshead talking to herself.

[Cambridgecutie]

I see Cutie! And is there literature saying they could appear again after death?

What do you mean appear again after death?

[Cambridgecutie]

This again? It's the ramblings of a pisshead talking to herself.

Haha...and your excuse for your 'ramblings' that AE contaminated the silencer with water from a bucket containing SC's menstrual stained knickers left to soak? 

[Cambridgecutie]

X Rays were done.

Concede.

Sectional x rays were carried out which could easily have missed the orthapedic hardware.

[Cambridgecutie]

Full body x-rays were taken. Only metal that was detected were the bullets.

And your evidence that full body x-rays were taken and not sectional x-rays?