What documentation is being withheld which could benefit Jeremy?

[lookout]

The CT say that Nevill was moved from the Aga to the scuttle after entry and his head was cut on the rim and started bleeding again, they say blood stays liquid after death,
What do you make of that claim, Lookout?

Hi snow, yes, there would be an overflow of surface  " watery " blood after death, which does run from wounds, unlike that which is pumped out. Also damage can occur when moving a body too, again which is identifiable from that of someone live.

[Rob_]

The phone is next to Nevill's bed. Jem can shoot Nevill dead in bed then take the phone off the hook to make it look like Neville was trying to phone him when Sheila intervened.

so now JB has to stage a dead body to make it look like Nevil had made a phone call before being shot.

Even PV would spot that! 

[Jonathan]

so now JB has to stage a dead body to make it look like Nevil had made a phone call before being shot.

Even PV would spot that!

Not much staging required - Neville would be right next to the phone

[snow66!]

Hi snow, yes, there would be an overflow of surface  " watery " blood after death, which does run from wounds, unlike that which is pumped out. Also damage can occur when moving a body too, again which is identifiable from that of someone live.

So, do you agree with the CT, that the police moved Nevill from the Aga to the chair/scuttle after entry, lookout?

[Rob_]

Not much staging required - Neville would be right next to the phone

If Nevil is shot dead in bed the blood staining would not match his staged position, and the angle of the shots would be wrong.

Would you plan this? Bamber had months to prepare.

[Jonathan]

If Nevil is shot dead in bed the blood staining would not match his staged position, and the angle of the shots would be wrong.

Would you plan this? Bamber had months to prepare.

The staging might be no more than moving an arm. If any staging was needed at all. Jem could easily tailor his phone call story to whatever fitted the crime scene.

[Cambridgecutie]

Accusing me doesn’t turn your fiction into fact!

What fiction?  What I have ever posted that is a) impossible or b) implausible?

[Adam]

The staging might be no more than moving an arm. If any staging was needed at all. Jem could easily tailor his phone call story to whatever fitted the crime scene.

Do you think he rang his answering machine, answered his own call, or made no call from WHF?

[Jonathan]

Do you think he rang his answering machine, answered his own call, or made no call from WHF?

On balance I'd say he rang his cottage - maybe he had the answer phone take the call so if calls were recorded it would appear one was made. It does not seem that local calls were itemised but Bamber might not have known this or wanted to take the risk. It was a risk anyway as if a call was itemised from WHF to the cottage the time travelling home would have put a gap between the incoming call to the cottage and Bamber phoning the police - which would hard to explain.

Bu it could be Bamber thoroughly researched how telecoms worked - and knew there was no need for him to make a call from WHF as it would not be itemised. So he didn't make one.

[Rob_]

On balance I'd say he rang his cottage - maybe he had the answer phone take the call so if calls were recorded it would appear one was made. It does not seem that local calls were itemised but Bamber might not have known this or wanted to take the risk. It was a risk anyway as if a call was itemised from WHF to the cottage the time travelling home would have put a gap between the incoming call to the cottage and Bamber phoning the police - which would hard to explain.

Bu it could be Bamber thoroughly researched how telecoms worked - and knew there was no need for him to make a call from WHF as it would not be itemised. So he didn't make one.

So how does he go about finding this out? the situation was changing rapidly throughout the country at the time. Even the police were not sure.

There was no internet. You say things off the cuff with no real thought of how it could be done without arousing suspicion.

[Jonathan]

So how does he go about finding this out? the situation was changing rapidly throughout the country at the time. Even the police were not sure.

There was no internet. You say things off the cuff with no real thought of how it could be done without arousing suspicion.

Maybe he looked at his telephone bill and saw local calls weren't itemised. Or read a copy of a trade magazine in a library.

I only said he could have.

[Adam]

So how does he go about finding this out? the situation was changing rapidly throughout the country at the time. Even the police were not sure.

There was no internet. You say things off the cuff with no real thought of how it could be done without arousing suspicion.

People could function pre internet.

[Adam]

On balance I'd say he rang his cottage - maybe he had the answer phone take the call so if calls were recorded it would appear one was made. It does not seem that local calls were itemised but Bamber might not have known this or wanted to take the risk. It was a risk anyway as if a call was itemised from WHF to the cottage the time travelling home would have put a gap between the incoming call to the cottage and Bamber phoning the police - which would hard to explain.

Bu it could be Bamber thoroughly researched how telecoms worked - and knew there was no need for him to make a call from WHF as it would not be itemised. So he didn't make one.

To reduce the time gap, do you think he may have answered his own call?