Breakdown of Sheila's drowsiness in days/hours leading to massacre.

[Adam]

Well apart from the bullet wounds he had blows to his face/head, shoulders and arms, Adam.
Some probably with the butt, some with the barrel!

Will do a detailed breakdown.

Appreciate supporters try to play it down. Saying there was no fight, it was juat a scuffle or Nevill collapsed upon kitchen arrival & Sheila got June to help move Nevill into different positions for Sheila to hit him in the different locations.

[Adam]

Breakdown of Nevill's injuries -

Blood on right hand.

Blood on left lower leg.

Blood on foot.

Blood on face.

Grazed elbow.

Bruised elbow.

Bruising to both eyes.

Swelling to both eyes.

Severe fractures to skull.

Lacerations on eyebrow.

Fracture to frontal face bone.

Lacerations to nose.

Bruising to nose.

Grazing to nose.

Bruising to forehead.

Severe bruising to both cheekbones.

Severe bruising to temples.

Abrasions to cheeks.

Deformed left side of face.

Fractures to lower jaw.

Bruised ear.

Lacerations to top of head.

Bruising to top of head.

Loss of skin to right hand.

Collection of bruises on forearms.

Bruised elbow.

Bruised wrist.

Bruising to forearms.

[snow66!]

Will do a detailed breakdown.

Appreciate supporters try to play it down. Saying there was no fight, it was juat a scuffle or Nevill collapsed upon kitchen arrival & Sheila got June to help move Nevill into different positions for Sheila to hit him in the different locations.

But it is mostly head and arms, Adam, blood on foot means blood ran down onto his foot, not that he was injured on the foot!

[snow66!]

Breakdown of Nevill's injuries -

Blood on right hand.

Blood on left lower leg.

Blood on foot.

Blood on face.

Grazed elbow.

Bruised elbow.

Bruising to both eyes.

Swelling to both eyes.

Severe fractures to skull.

Lacerations on eyebrow.

Fracture to frontal face bone.

Lacerations to nose.

Bruising to nose.

Grazing to nose.

Bruising to forehead.

Severe bruising to both cheekbones.

Severe bruising to temples.

Abrasions to cheeks.

Deformed left side of face.

Fractures to lower jaw.

Bruised ear.

Lacerations to top of head.

Bruising to top of head.

Loss of skin to right hand.

Collection of bruises on forearms.

Bruised elbow.

Bruised wrist.

Bruising to forearms.

Here's something for you to check up on, Adam, bruising to the body after death!
Why you may ask?
Well bruising doesn't occurr in a few minutes, does it? And Nevill was probably beaten and killed soon after he reached the kitchen, right?
Well it seems that the bruising process stops after death due to the lack of blood flow and tissue response, so why was Nevills face and forehead so visibly bruised if he died soon after the beating?
He even had two black eyes!
Ever had a broken nose, Adam? I have, and it wasn't until the day after that my eyes turned blue, or bruising under the eyes I should say!
Anyway, what I am getting at is, does the amount of pronounced bruising to Nevills face point to the injuries being inflicted hours earlier in order for the bruises to form before death?
What do you say to that , Adam?
Was Nevill smashed in the face several hours before death resulting in him lying against the Aga?

[Steve_uk]

Here's something for you to check up on, Adam, bruising to the body after death!
Why you may ask?
Well bruising doesn't occurr in a few minutes, does it? And Nevill was probably beaten and killed soon after he reached the kitchen, right?
Well it seems that the bruising process stops after death due to the lack of blood flow and tissue response, so why was Nevills face and forehead so visibly bruised if he died soon after the beating?
He even had two black eyes!
Ever had a broken nose, Adam? I have, and it wasn't until the day after that my eyes turned blue, or bruising under the eyes I should say!
Anyway, what I am getting at is, does the amount of pronounced bruising to Nevills face point to the injuries being inflicted hours earlier in order for the bruises to form before death?
What do you say to that , Adam?
Was Nevill smashed in the face several hours before death resulting in him lying against the Aga?

That reminds me: I should think twice about retiring to Ecuador. I hope you're in a safe space now, snow66!

[Jane]

Here's something for you to check up on, Adam, bruising to the body after death!
Why you may ask?
Well bruising doesn't occurr in a few minutes, does it? And Nevill was probably beaten and killed soon after he reached the kitchen, right?
Well it seems that the bruising process stops after death due to the lack of blood flow and tissue response, so why was Nevills face and forehead so visibly bruised if he died soon after the beating?
He even had two black eyes!
Ever had a broken nose, Adam? I have, and it wasn't until the day after that my eyes turned blue, or bruising under the eyes I should say!
Anyway, what I am getting at is, does the amount of pronounced bruising to Nevills face point to the injuries being inflicted hours earlier in order for the bruises to form before death?
What do you say to that , Adam?
Was Nevill smashed in the face several hours before death resulting in him lying against the Aga?

Perhaps Nevill was on blood thinners? It's also recognized that as one ages, one bruises more readily. Your last sentence makes absolutely no sense.

[ILB]

Breakdown of Nevill's injuries -

Blood on right hand.

Blood on left lower leg.

Blood on foot.

Blood on face.

Grazed elbow.

Bruised elbow.

Bruising to both eyes.

Swelling to both eyes.

Severe fractures to skull.

Lacerations on eyebrow.

Fracture to frontal face bone.

Lacerations to nose.

Bruising to nose.

Grazing to nose.

Bruising to forehead.

Severe bruising to both cheekbones.

Severe bruising to temples.

Abrasions to cheeks.

Deformed left side of face.

Fractures to lower jaw.

Bruised ear.

Lacerations to top of head.

Bruising to top of head.

Loss of skin to right hand.

Collection of bruises on forearms.

Bruised elbow.

Bruised wrist.

Bruising to forearms.

It was a brutal beating.

[snow66!]

That reminds me: I should think twice about retiring to Ecuador. I hope you're in a safe space now, snow66!

Whats going on in Ecuador, Steve?
I've no intention of moving from the UK when I retire.

[snow66!]

Perhaps Nevill was on blood thinners? It's also recognized that as one ages, one bruises more readily. Your last sentence makes absolutely no sense.

Well i'm no medical expert, Jane, only pointing out what I read.
Why doesn't the last sentence make sense? You know my Aga scenario!

[Steve_uk]

Whats going on in Ecuador, Steve?
I've no intention of moving from the UK when I retire.

Well, I'm looking at this video, though admittedly they're all a lot younger than I am: https://youtu.be/SHF7o7icyPA

[snow66!]

Well, I'm looking at this video, though admittedly they're all a lot younger than I am: https://youtu.be/SHF7o7icyPA

Do you frequently look at videos from all over the world to help you decide where to retire, Steve?
Are you still working at the moment?

[Steve_uk]

Do you frequently look at videos from all over the world to help you decide where to retire, Steve?
Are you still working at the moment?

Yes, I'm still working. Undecided on where to retire.

[Jane]

Well i'm no medical expert, Jane, only pointing out what I read.
Why doesn't the last sentence make sense? You know my Aga scenario!

I fail to see how having "his face smashed several hours before death" equates "in him lying against the Aga".

[snow66!]

I fail to see how having "his face smashed several hours before death" equates "in him lying against the Aga".

Well its quite simple, Jane, if the Aga burned Nevills back I am trying to determine just when this happened, and I am hoping that the pathology reports may help. ie., can it be proven that any of Nevills injuries occurred several hours before he died.
If so, it may point to an injured Nevill lying against the Aga hours before he was shot and killed.
I think the CT should request all of Nevills medical reports and x-rays for an expert to examine, they should examine every possibility and scenario, not just Nevill being moved from the Aga to the chair/scuttle by the police after entry! What the heck do they have to lose?

[snow66!]

Yes, I'm still working. Undecided on where to retire.

Yes, i've seen you're thread on prospective retirement, Steve!