Was Sheila under-medicated?

[snow66!]

Her violence wasn't directed against people, though, apart from her destroying a few of Colin's sculptures, upsetting as that might have been. Ranting and raving during her second breakdown her fists were beating against the wall, not against humans. In the state completely unmedicated she followed the pattern statistically of the vast majority of schizophrenics: more a danger to oneself than others.

I see, Steve, so every paranoid schizophreniac who starts off breaking things never goes on to kill anyone?
Its one or the other is it? Breaking things or killing people, but never both? As distinguishable as type1 and type 2 diabetes?
Somehow I dont believe that!

[Jane]

Yes I agree that Sheila wasn't functioning well due to dangerous interactions between prescribed medication and illegal drugs, which was just too much for her fragile mind to handle, Adam!
And once she did break down, there was no stopping her rampage.
Lamb to the slaughter, she was not!! She had turned in to the wolf!!

Then how come only "trace elements" of cannabis were found in her system? Are you expecting us to believe a sudden and violent rampage ate into the amounts she'd 'stored' in her body?

[snow66!]

Then how come only "trace elements" of cannabis were found in her system? Are you expecting us to believe a sudden and violent rampage ate into the amounts she'd 'stored' in her body?

Yes, the damage was done, Jane!
An alcoholic may stop drinking, and while no trace remains in their body irreparable damage may have been done to the liver.

[Rob_]

At trial Doctor Hugh Cameron Ferguson is on record as saying he didn't think the cannabis would react negatively with the Haloperidol. Of course, Sheila was a good suspect superficially, and the Defence's strongest card, so I don't blame them for highlighting past incidents.

Cannabis may not react with Haloperidol but cannabis can make a person with PS much more likely to be violent something like 15 times.

So very misleading of Dr Ferguson to state no reaction to Haloperidol in front of the jury.

[Steve_uk]

Cannabis may not react with Haloperidol but cannabis can make a person with PS much more likely to be violent something like 15 times.

So very misleading of Dr Ferguson to state no reaction to Haloperidol in front of the jury.

It may not have been stated in front of the jury, but was in his notes. As Jane said, there were trace amounts found in her system, suggesting she hadn't been a user for awhile.

[Rob_]

It may not have been stated in front of the jury, but was in his notes. As Jane said, there were trace amounts in her system, suggesting she hadn't been a user for awhile.

Depending on how she took the drug and how frequent would determine the length of time it would be detectable in her body.

So a single use 3 days in urine or 48 hours in blood (approx) for example.

For a heavy user 30 days in urine or 25 days in blood.

I don't know if Sheila was a heavy user or not? so if cannabis was detected she could have been using the drug quite recently?

[Jane]

Depending on how she took the drug and how frequent would determine the length of time it would be detectable in her body.

So a single use 3 days in urine or 48 hours in blood (approx) for example.

For a heavy user 30 days in urine or 25 days in blood.

I don't know if Sheila was a heavy user or not? so if cannabis was detected she could have been using the drug quite recently?

Rob, you can say "Ah, but......." as many times as you like, but you can't change what the tox report says.

[ILB]

Sheila couldn't function in the years, months, weeks & hours leading up to the massacre.

This is the bollocks in question.

[Jane]

Yes, the damage was done, Jane!
An alcoholic may stop drinking, and while no trace remains in their body irreparable damage may have been done to the liver.

There will be more than a trace in their body if they been drinking, though. Same goes for drugs. If she'd been using recently, they'd have found more than "trace elements".

[Adam]

This is the bollocks in question.

It has been well documentated since 1985. About 500 times.

You don't spend 6 & 8 weeks in hospital & get injected with Haldoperiodal if you can function.

Jeremy telling Julie 'tonights the night' after a final check.

[ILB]

It has been well documentated since 1985. About 500 times.

You don't spend 6 & 8 weeks in hospital & get injected with Haldoperiodal if you can function.

Jeremy telling Julie 'tonights the night' after a final check.

Final check for what? The alternative suspect being a complete vegtable as you describe her?

Would be madness.

[Adam]

Final check for what? The alternative suspect being a complete vegtable as you describe her?

Would be madness.

The final check was to confirm Sheila would put up no resistance. He was going for a 1 shot kill.

I will do a breakdown confirming Sheila's drowsiness in her final days/hours.

[Rob_]

There will be more than a trace in their body if they been drinking, though. Same goes for drugs. If she'd been using recently, they'd have found more than "trace elements".

Not true Jane, someone taking cannabis infrequently gets rid of the drug quickly as I posted above.

A heavy user not so.

[Jane]

Not true Jane, someone taking cannabis infrequently gets rid of the drug quickly as I posted above.

A heavy user not so.

So "trace elements" would imply her to be in infrequent user? Perhaps for some Dutch courage?

[Rob_]

So "trace elements" would imply her to be in infrequent user? Perhaps for some Dutch courage?

Or a heavy user who has refrained for a while.