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Re: Allegedly biased summing up by the judge
« Reply #45 on: October 16, 2025, 06:39:PM »
They walked along the sea wall of Osea Caravan park.
Osea map……. Notice it says Seawall walk.

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Re: Allegedly biased summing up by the judge
« Reply #46 on: October 16, 2025, 06:46:PM »
Osea map……. Notice it says Seawall walk.

https://osealeisure.com/2024/wp-content/uploads/osea-park-site-plan.pdf

That is not a source they walked to the caravan office via The Sea Wall.
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Re: Allegedly biased summing up by the judge
« Reply #47 on: October 16, 2025, 07:11:PM »
That is not a source they walked to the caravan office via The Sea Wall.
I didn’t say it was a source, I’m showing you there’s a sea wall walk.  The source is in the statement, he’s asked who were you involved with (the burglary) he said Julie and I went down there and broke in as she said, then it’s put to him, Julie said you went for a walk along the sea wall and you asked her to wait. 

Now if you want to surmise they walked 2.5 miles along the sea wall go for it, I say they went down there possibly by car with the intention to walk along the sea wall to the office, Julie kept guard while he broke in.

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Re: Allegedly biased summing up by the judge
« Reply #48 on: October 16, 2025, 07:27:PM »
I didn’t say it was a source, I’m showing you there’s a sea wall walk.  The source is in the statement, he’s asked who were you involved with (the burglary) he said Julie and I went down there and broke in as she said, then it’s put to him, Julie said you went for a walk along the sea wall and you asked her to wait. 

Now if you want to surmise they walked 2.5 miles along the sea wall go for it, I say they went down there possibly by car with the intention to walk along the sea wall to the office, Julie kept guard while he broke in.

I know there is a Sea Wall route. It is on Google Maps.

So it is in his police interview.

Going by Google Maps there is no half drive, half walk route.

It is either walk The Sea Wall from Fish Street. Or drive up Maldon Road from Head Street.

Always thought he drove. But if he did a long late night/early morning walk to rob his family of £1,000, that highlights his lust for money.   
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Re: Allegedly biased summing up by the judge
« Reply #49 on: October 16, 2025, 07:38:PM »
I know there is a Sea Wall route. It is on Google Maps.

So it is in his police interview.

Going by Google Maps there is no half drive, half walk route.

It is either walk The Sea Wall from Fish Street. Or drive up Maldon Road from Head Street.

Always thought he drove. But if he did a long late night/early morning walk to rob his family of £1,000, that highlights his lust for money.
There is a sea wall walk around Osea, there is a car park in Osea there is also Osea road, he could drive down there park up and go for a walk with Julie along the sea wall, rob the office get back in the car and drive home. One thing is certain, he did it and she was with him, she knew what he had done and kept quite and probably enjoyed the spoils from it.

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Re: Allegedly biased summing up by the judge
« Reply #50 on: October 16, 2025, 07:44:PM »
Is there a source that they walked to rob the caravan site?

The 2020 drama has them in a car.

In her WS, she says she had been out in the car with Jeremy, he parked up somewhere, robbed osea, then they had a few drinks and game of pool in a local pub.
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Re: Allegedly biased summing up by the judge
« Reply #51 on: October 16, 2025, 07:49:PM »
There is a sea wall walk around Osea, there is a car park in Osea there is also Osea road, he could drive down there park up and go for a walk with Julie along the sea wall, rob the office get back in the car and drive home. One thing is certain, he did it and she was with him, she knew what he had done and kept quite and probably enjoyed the spoils from it.
She even tried to get the key for Bamber through the letter box, and was unsuccessful.

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Re: Allegedly biased summing up by the judge
« Reply #52 on: October 16, 2025, 07:51:PM »
In her WS, she says she had been out in the car with Jeremy, he parked up somewhere, robbed osea, then they had a few drinks and game of pool in a local pub.
Thanks ILB, I knew I’d read it but couldn’t find it.  She helped him spend what they robbed.

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Re: Allegedly biased summing up by the judge
« Reply #53 on: October 16, 2025, 07:57:PM »
In her WS, she says she had been out in the car with Jeremy, he parked up somewhere, robbed osea, then they had a few drinks and game of pool in a local pub.

Please post the WS. There is nothing in her 8/9/85 WS.
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« Reply #54 on: October 16, 2025, 08:10:PM »
She even tried to get the key for Bamber through the letter box, and was unsuccessful.
She wasn’t involved in the Burglary my backside, she tried to get the key for him to Rob the Office 😂😂😂

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Re: Allegedly biased summing up by the judge
« Reply #55 on: October 17, 2025, 05:44:AM »
Please post the WS. There is nothing in her 8/9/85 WS.

Please do your research.
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Re: Allegedly biased summing up by the judge
« Reply #56 on: October 17, 2025, 05:47:AM »
She wasn’t involved in the Burglary my backside, she tried to get the key for him to Rob the Office 😂😂😂

For me she is lucky he denied his guilt. Whatever the reason.

Had he confessed he would have brought her down with him.
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Re: Allegedly biased summing up by the judge
« Reply #57 on: October 17, 2025, 06:41:AM »
For me she is lucky he denied his guilt. Whatever the reason.

Had he confessed he would have brought her down with him.
I agree ILB, had he confessed the Police wouldn’t have needed her.

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Re: Allegedly biased summing up by the judge
« Reply #58 on: October 17, 2025, 07:05:AM »
She wasn’t involved in the Burglary my backside, she tried to get the key for him to Rob the Office 😂😂😂
As to  the burglary, Julie Mugford's involvement, save for an-Iunsuccessful attempt to get the key hanging behind the door,, appears to have been that of a bystander.

 Mugford was just simply a bystander according to DC Adam’s, Yet, she attempted to get the key for Bamber to Rob the Office,   kept guard for him while he broke in and wrecked the place, and then went for drinks after with him,  no doubt with the money she had just helped him steal.

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Re: Allegedly biased summing up by the judge
« Reply #59 on: October 17, 2025, 09:35:AM »
For me she is lucky he denied his guilt. Whatever the reason.

Had he confessed he would have brought her down with him.

What could he say to bring her down?

She had approached the police and given her 23 page WS.
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