Allegedly biased summing up by the judge

[Jane]

What could he say to bring her down?

She had approached the police and given her 23 page WS.

The point being, she told her own story first! Did he not say that if he went down she'd go down too? Who of us should wait around for that to happen, and do nothing to save ourselves?

[Adam]

The point being, she told her own story first! Did he not say that if he went down she'd go down too? Who of us should wait around for that to happen, and do nothing to save ourselves?

He could say Julie forced him to do it.

Going by the injuries to Nevill she would have to have been very persuasive.

[Adam]

If he confessed prior to Julie approaching the police, he could say it was all Julie's idea and she made him do it. That would not be very believable or lead to a lesser sentence.

Julie could give the same WS she gave on the 8/9/85. It would not be as convincing as she had not approached the police.

Or she could do what Bamber has done for the last 40 years - deny ever discussing it!

The police would charge Julie on option 1 - withholding evidence. They would need proof she was lying in order to charge her on option 2.

[Adam]

If he confessed years later, he could still say it was Julie's idea.

A confession & blaming Julie would not benefit him in any way.

[Steve_uk]

As to  the burglary, Julie Mugford's involvement, save for an-Iunsuccessful attempt to get the key hanging behind the door,, appears to have been that of a bystander.

 Mugford was just simply a bystander according to DC Adam’s, Yet, she attempted to get the key for Bamber to Rob the Office,   kept guard for him while he broke in and wrecked the place, and then went for drinks after with him,  no doubt with the money she had just helped him steal.

Probably an attempt to rope her in as an accessory. Strange he was the first to put his hand through, claimed he couldn't reach the key, whereupon he asked for her help, then when she failed lo and behold he managed to retrieve it.

[Steve_uk]

I know there is a Sea Wall route. It is on Google Maps.

So it is in his police interview.

Going by Google Maps there is no half drive, half walk route.

It is either walk The Sea Wall from Fish Street. Or drive up Maldon Road from Head Street.

Always thought he drove. But if he did a long late night/early morning walk to rob his family of £1,000, that highlights his lust for money.

I wouldn't know Adam, but in Chapter 15 of CAL it states they drove to the Mill Beach Hotel, parked the car then walked along the seafront to the shop.

[Adam]

I wouldn't know Adam, but in Chapter 15 of CAL it states they drove to the Mill Beach Hotel, parked the car then walked along the seafront to the shop.

Thanks.

Mill Beach Hotel will be a few yards from the office.

[ILB]

If he confessed prior to Julie approaching the police, he could say it was all Julie's idea and she made him do it. That would not be very believable or lead to a lesser sentence.

Julie could give the same WS she gave on the 8/9/85. It would not be as convincing as she had not approached the police.

Or she could do what Bamber has done for the last 40 years - deny ever discussing it!

The police would charge Julie on option 1 - withholding evidence. They would need proof she was lying in order to charge her on option 2.

For me it wouldnt be hard.

He would point out the medication she brought.

He would point out all the trips in the aftermath etc

He would say that she is only going to police over jilted love.

[ILB]

The readiness to identify the twins, ( how many times had she actually met them prior to 7.8.85?

Even Jeremy himself didnt see them that often.

[Adam]

For me it wouldnt be hard.

He would point out the medication she brought.

He would point out all the trips in the aftermath etc

He would say that she is only going to police over jilted love.

She wouldn't be going to the police over jilted love. He had already confessed & the police approached her!

The sleeping pills were prescribed by her doctor.

[ILB]

She wouldn't be going to the police over jilted love. He had already confessed & the police approached her!

The sleeping pills were prescribed by her doctor.

Yes she would imo.

Because of the ill conceived fact that she felt because she hadn't pulled the trigger she wouldnt be culpable for anything.

[ILB]

Obviously guilty or not Jeremy was always going to deny the charge.

It was x5 murder, he risked a life sentence, he was only 24, he felt confident with a jury acquitting  him.

Stan thought he would get a confession. Couldn't break Jeremy.

Seems a Gresham education and self confidence held him in good stead.

[Steve_uk]

For me it wouldnt be hard.

He would point out the medication she brought.

He would point out all the trips in the aftermath etc

He would say that she is only going to police over jilted love.

But his motivation always was money. In his own mind he would lose everything.

[Steve_uk]

Obviously guilty or not Jeremy was always going to deny the charge.

It was x5 murder, he risked a life sentence, he was only 24, he felt confident with a jury acquitting  him.

Stan thought he would get a confession. Couldn't break Jeremy.

Seems a Gresham education and self confidence held him in good stead.

As far as image was concerned yes, but with Jeremy it was all bluster. The only kudos he received at that establishment was shooting with the Army Cadets, which in subsequent years he put to good use.

[Adam]

Julie's 8/9/85 WS would be agreeing with Bamber.

If he had already confessed and started implicating Julie.