Jeremy Bamber is defiant, and believes there's a " cover up "

[Bubo bubo]

Your assertion that there had to be a telephone in the master bedroom on August 6-7 doesn't help us. Jeremy could disable all telephones by phoning Bourtree Cottage from the kitchen, leave the handset off the cradle and just let it keep ringing.

That risked the neighbours hearing his his phone. Hardly a plan for a perfect murder. You are also forgetting that the line status changed while he was outside with the police. How did he manage that?

[Jane]

Why was there no phone in the bedroom?

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,12626.msg584872.html#msg584872

It is clear you do not understand the issues surrounding the phones. Read the above and explain the situation that existed.

Well, that's no use to man nor beast -and I'm neither, but it's no use to me, either! All you do is post your own theories, which I've long since dismissed!

[ILB]

It would have taken huge physical effort from June. 

To crawl to Nevill's side of the bed after being shot 5 times.

Can only think June did that to use the bedroom phone.

Bamber must have disabled this phone from downstairs.

After the shooting he moved the bedroom phone next to Nevill & left it off the hook.

Unless nevill was shot first of course.

[ILB]

That risked the neighbours hearing his his phone. Hardly a plan for a perfect murder. You are also forgetting that the line status changed while he was outside with the police. How did he manage that?

Guilters have him remembering to turn down a phone to mute to not wake the neighbours but placing a sound moderator with the scapegoats blood upon back in a cupboard for all on sundry to see.

In fairness there is a lot of what ifs.

[Steve_uk]

That risked the neighbours hearing his his phone. Hardly a plan for a perfect murder. You are also forgetting that the line status changed while he was outside with the police. How did he manage that?

He could have muffled the sound of the ring at Bourtree Cottage by putting a pillow over it. As for the line status, I thought it was patched up by a BT operator.

[ILB]

He could have muffled the sound of the ring at Bourtree Cottage by putting a pillow over it. As for the line status, I thought it was patched up by a BT operator.

Could have been risky, a 35 minute sea wall journey  ( prosecition narrative not my own views )with a phone blaring out. Head Street, tiny property wafer thin walls.

Risky in the sense of " whys Jeremy's phone blaring out and hes not answering" from the neighbours perspective if they awoke and heard it

If the neighbours awake and then they see Jeremy arrive back car, walk or bike its game set and match.

[Bubo bubo]

He could have muffled the sound of the ring at Bourtree Cottage by putting a pillow over it. As for the line status, I thought it was patched up by a BT operator.

Read the logs 'Numpty'. The operator was asked to check the line status several times. She was asked to let them know of any changes. She did. She told them the line was engaged after telling them previously on each occasion that it was 'off the hook'. For this to happen someone inside the house had to replace the receiver and then remove it and dial a number to set the line to engaged. So there was someone alive in the house when JB was outside with the police. I believe that was June. It was at this stage that the police told her to switch the call.

[Adam]

Unless nevill was shot first of course.

Why would Nevill getting shot first stop June from crawling to use the bedroom phone?

[Adam]

He could have muffled the sound of the ring at Bourtree Cottage by putting a pillow over it. As for the line status, I thought it was patched up by a BT operator.

The mute/volume control were standard accessories in 1985 home phones. Along with the 're dial' button.

Useful to him if he had decided to answer his own call.

[Adam]

June crawling to Nevill's side of the bed, does suggest the bedroom phone was there. However it had been disabled by Bamber.

This is no surprise. Where else would the bedroom phone be?

Bamber unplugged the kitchen phone & put it underneath magazines. Then put the bedroom phone in the kitchen and took it off it's hook.

[ILB]

Why would he fuck around with the phones when he was going for a sitting duck massacre?

[ILB]

Why would Nevill getting shot first stop June from crawling to use the bedroom phone?

Believe he incapacitated June before returning to her. ( post nevill)

Then followed Nevill.

Although not via the box room.

[Adam]

Why would he fuck around with the phones when he was going for a sitting duck massacre?

Woffinden says he disabled the phones upon entrance. By lifting the receiver off the kitchen phone.

It is a good job he did. Looks like June went to phone 999 on the phone next to Nevill.

[ILB]

Woffinden says he disabled the phones upon entrance. By lifting the receiver off the kitchen phone.

It is a good job he did. Looks like June went to phone 999 on the phone next to Nevill.

Don't know to be honest.

Would only be logical if it had been a drawn out affair.

He went there with the aim to murder people in a sitting duck scenario.

[ILB]

Woffinden says he disabled the phones upon entrance. By lifting the receiver off the kitchen phone.

It is a good job he did. Looks like June went to phone 999 on the phone next to Nevill.

Me personally, I believe he would have just gone straight on the attack as soon as he entered the farmhouse.

The phone off the cradle in the kitchen with Nevill in the kitchen supports his " call from my dad " scenario. He did this after all were deceased.