Article about recent decision

[snow66!]

He didn’t and the CCRC don’t think he did either by the looks of things.

Shouldn't we trust Boyce rather than the CCRC regarding the burn marks, HB?
After all, what is the point in hiring experts if their findings can simply be dismissed by others sitting at a desk? Especially if the CCRC haven't produced a counter claim from another expert.

[Jane]

Shouldn't we trust Boyce rather than the CCRC regarding the burn marks, HB?
After all, what is the point in hiring experts if their findings can simply be dismissed by others sitting at a desk? Especially if the CCRC haven't produced a counter claim from another expert.

So what do you think happens when each side produces their own expert, as they're full entitled to do?

[Hardy Boy]

Shouldn't we trust Boyce rather than the CCRC regarding the burn marks, HB?
After all, what is the point in hiring experts if their findings can simply be dismissed by others sitting at a desk? Especially if the CCRC haven't produced a counter claim from another expert.

NO, Boyce says the Police must have moved Neville, you don’t believe that either.  If we move onto your theory, should the CCRC investigate every Crackpots suggestion, NO.

[snow66!]

So what do you think happens when each side produces their own expert, as they're full entitled to do?

Has this been done regarding the Aga evidence, Jane?
We haven't seen the CCRC report yet!

[Hardy Boy]

Has this been done regarding the Aga evidence, Jane?
We haven't seen the CCRC report yet!

The Aga evidence would have been passed to the Tea Lady to look at.

[Cambridgecutie]

Shouldn't we trust Boyce rather than the CCRC regarding the burn marks, HB?
After all, what is the point in hiring experts if their findings can simply be dismissed by others sitting at a desk? Especially if the CCRC haven't produced a counter claim from another expert.

Even if it proved what Boyce claims how does it exonerate JB?   It doesn't.  How does it meet the CPS criteria for an appeal hearing?  It doesn't and the CCRC will not waste resources.

The marks on NB's back were not even used at trial by either the defence or prosecution since neither pathologist was able to say conclusively what they were, how they were caused and when etc.  The marks on NB's back could not have formed any part of jurors' decisions.

'Hearing new evidence' needs to be based on something highly pertinent to the trial which had jurors understood at the time might well have altered their decision/verdict.

[Hardy Boy]

Even if it proved what Boyce claims how does it exonerate JB?   It doesn't.  How does it meet the CPS criteria for an appeal hearing?  It doesn't and the CCRC will not waste resources.

The marks on NB's back were not even used at trial by either the defence or prosecution since neither pathologist was able to say conclusively what they were, how they were caused and when etc.  The marks on NB's back could not have formed any part of jurors' decisions.

'Hearing new evidence' needs to be based on something highly pertinent to the trial which had jurors understood at the time might well have altered their decision/verdict.

All the CCRC would look at was the raid team statements and it would be case closed on the Aga submission, they would have to prove the raid team lied.

[Cambridgecutie]

All the CCRC would look at was the raid team statements and it would be case closed on the Aga submission, they would have to prove the raid team lied.

And it doesn't fit with the pathological evidence which was fact checked by Prof Knight for the defence ie hypostatis consistent with found position.

[Bubo bubo]

And you have taken over from the late MT in that you are now the #1 crank on the case.

38. At 8.10 a.m., Dr Craig attended the scene to formally certify the deaths. In cross-examination at the trial he said the deaths could have occurred at any time during the previous night.

And you continue to ignore the most straightforward explanations that fit with all the other moving parts.

My scenario is based on the totality of the soc evidence as documented and photographed at soc

- Blood stains
- Casings
- Distance of shots
- Trajectories
- Wound tracks

He was only stating the obvious. He only gave a blanket time of death. You were wrong in intimating that individual timings were given in your wording. All of your scenario is based on a staged SOC. For example casings are easily moved even as a paperwork exercise. None of the others proves that bodies were not moved and you are still relying on June being passive during the tragedy. She just stays in bed waiting to be shot

[Cambridgecutie]

He was only stating the obvious. He only gave a blanket time of death. You were wrong in intimating that individual timings were given in your wording. All of your scenario is based on a staged SOC. For example casings are easily moved even as a paperwork exercise. None of the others proves that bodies were not moved and you are still relying on June being passive during the tragedy. She just stays in bed waiting to be shot

Pointless attempting to debate with you as you're just and out and out crank/conspiracy theorist. 

[snow66!]

The Aga evidence would have been passed to the Tea Lady to look at.

Ha ha! Very good, HB, very good!

[snow66!]

All the CCRC would look at was the raid team statements and it would be case closed on the Aga submission, they would have to prove the raid team lied.

Not if the burns were caused before Nevill ended up on the chair/scuttle, HB!
I believe the CT/JB have committed suicide by pairing up the Aga marks with the claim that Nevill was moved by the police. I just dont get their plan at all.

[snow66!]

And it doesn't fit with the pathological evidence which was fact checked by Prof Knight for the defence ie hypostatis consistent with found position.

Fine Cutie! Then as I was saying, the burns must have been formed by the Aga earlier on when Nevill was still alive. Its the only possibility if the Aga burned his back, and I believe wholeheartedly that it did.

[Jane]

Has this been done regarding the Aga evidence, Jane?
We haven't seen the CCRC report yet!

My late partner was called as an expert witness on numerous occasions. He would leave home eager and excited, only to return, disappointed that he hadn't been used. As soon as the other side got wind of his presence, they settled out of court!

[Jane]

Not if the burns were caused before Nevill ended up on the chair/scuttle, HB!
I believe the CT/JB have committed suicide by pairing up the Aga marks with the claim that Nevill was moved by the police. I just dont get their plan at all.

Well, he sure as hell didn't put himself in that position. You don't believe either JB or the police did. So tell us who you believe did.