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Offline Rob_

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« Reply #375 on: May 12, 2025, 09:16:PM »
Nevill & June being fully fit adults & Sheila operating at 20% with no rifle experience is more important evidence. Espescially with Nevill's power.

But appreciate supporters will focus on the silencer as the relatives found it.

Nevil's power? he only had one usable arm and was badly wounded, no contest for a woman in a rage with a rifle.

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« Reply #376 on: May 12, 2025, 09:37:PM »
Nevill & June being fully fit adults & Sheila operating at 20% with no rifle experience is more important evidence. Espescially with Nevill's power.

But appreciate supporters will focus on the silencer as the relatives found it.

I am not a supporter.

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« Reply #377 on: May 12, 2025, 09:40:PM »
He's back to his percentages.

I did ask for his GMC number.
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« Reply #378 on: May 13, 2025, 04:10:AM »
It would be strange if the silencer was the only piece of evidence against him.

However there is a mountain of other forensic and circumstantial evidence -

Hands.

Feet.

Fingers.

Nails.

Nightdress - 11 items.

Window entry access.

Window exit access. 

Moved fixed items around kitchen window. 

Items put in front of lower part kitchen window.

No blood on kitchen phone.

Hugeness of WHF. Unlikely to be heard.

Unlocked gun cupboard.

Bible.

Legs pulled.

Nevill's strength.

Sheila at 20% against Nevill.

Sheila at 20% against Bamber.

No injuries to Sheila.

Knowing WHF. In the dark.

Nevill's multiple injuries.

Nevill bare footed in sleeping attire.

Sheila bare footed in sleeping attire.

Dried blood.

June shot in bed.

Close range face shots to Nevill.

Nevill liftef onto a coal scuttle/chair.

Sheila's no experience with a rifle.

Rifle would have been put away beforehand. By Bamber, Nevill or June.

Supper visit - reconnaisance.

Poor rabbit story.

Avsilable bike.

Bike arriving 2 days before massacre.

Unseen route.

Answering machine.

Two shots.

Sights removed.

One alive suspect.

Motive.

Opportunity.

No alibi.

Julie's WS. Knowing 19 things.

WS's of relatives.   

10am & 3am phone calls.

Susan Battersby.

James Richards.

Mary Mugford.

Caravan break in.

Nevill's mysterious call.

Bamber not ringing 999.

Bamber ringing Chelmsford Police.

Asking to be picked up.

Driving slowly to WHF.

Lack of remorse.

Un coperative police interviews.

Refusal to discuss issues.

Poor explanations - Crispy, Nevill not wanting police involvement.

Twins not waking.
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« Reply #379 on: May 13, 2025, 07:36:AM »
It would be strange if the silencer was the only piece of evidence against him.

However there is a mountain of other forensic and circumstantial evidence -

Hands.

Feet.

Fingers.

Nails.

Nightdress - 11 items.

Window entry access.

Window exit access. 

Moved fixed items around kitchen window. 

Items put in front of lower part kitchen window.

No blood on kitchen phone.

Hugeness of WHF. Unlikely to be heard.

Unlocked gun cupboard.

Bible.

Legs pulled.

Nevill's strength.

Sheila at 20% against Nevill.

Sheila at 20% against Bamber.

No injuries to Sheila.

Knowing WHF. In the dark.

Nevill's multiple injuries.

Nevill bare footed in sleeping attire.

Sheila bare footed in sleeping attire.

Dried blood.

June shot in bed.

Close range face shots to Nevill.

Nevill liftef onto a coal scuttle/chair.

Sheila's no experience with a rifle.

Rifle would have been put away beforehand. By Bamber, Nevill or June.

Supper visit - reconnaisance.

Poor rabbit story.

Avsilable bike.

Bike arriving 2 days before massacre.

Unseen route.

Answering machine.

Two shots.

Sights removed.

One alive suspect.

Motive.

Opportunity.

No alibi.

Julie's WS. Knowing 19 things.

WS's of relatives.   

10am & 3am phone calls.

Susan Battersby.

James Richards.

Mary Mugford.

Caravan break in.

Nevill's mysterious call.

Bamber not ringing 999.

Bamber ringing Chelmsford Police.

Asking to be picked up.

Driving slowly to WHF.

Lack of remorse.

Un coperative police interviews.

Refusal to discuss issues.

Poor explanations - Crispy, Nevill not wanting police involvement.

Twins not waking.

Genuine question, do you ever find it tedious discussing a case of a man you believe to be gulity as sin?
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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #380 on: May 13, 2025, 09:18:AM »
Genuine question, do you ever find it tedious discussing a case of a man you believe to be gulity as sin?

You know he has lost argument when he resorts to the gish gallop.

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« Reply #381 on: May 13, 2025, 11:02:AM »
You know he has lost argument when he resorts to the gish gallop.

I personally don't believe he is as much a guilter as he claims to be. I may be wrong.
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« Reply #382 on: May 13, 2025, 02:10:PM »
She died in early 86 IIRC . The circumstances of her will being changed less than a month after the murders is very shady. Another subject that the Jury were not aware of.

PB not MS. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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« Reply #383 on: May 13, 2025, 02:17:PM »
I personally don't believe the silencer was on the rifle.

In which case perhaps you can let us have your theories as to how it was fabricated as opposed to simply denigrating the theories of others.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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« Reply #384 on: May 13, 2025, 02:33:PM »
I accept it started before you joined that forum but you were an early member of it and must have been aware of what was going on.  Even after you became a moderator there was some atrocious behaviour there.  It was frankly often a cesspit with clearly illegal material posted at times.

That forum seems to have virtually died now.

Are we talkig about the same forum? 

By the time I joined I didn't observe anything I regarded as "atrocious" or "illegal". 

I mainly stuck to the JB board in the early days.  As time went on I posted on some of the other cases. 

I know some members here were subjected to ridicule and rightly so imo.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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« Reply #385 on: May 13, 2025, 02:44:PM »
The whole basis of the conviction is on the silencer and Julie.

For me anyway.

Believe some don't even see Julie's evidence as crucial.

Including the CCRC and CoA.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #386 on: May 13, 2025, 02:49:PM »
Off topic, but has anyone watched The Essex Millionaires Murders?

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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #387 on: May 13, 2025, 03:26:PM »

By the time I joined I didn't observe anything I regarded as "atrocious" or "illegal". 

I know some members here were subjected to ridicule and rightly so imo.

You obviously turned a blind eye to it. I find it unfortunate to say the least that you consider the abuse directed at members here was appropriate.  You did exchange friendly banter with the worst culprits there as I recall.



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Re: Adam's Claims...
« Reply #388 on: May 13, 2025, 04:31:PM »
Off topic, but has anyone watched The Essex Millionaires Murders?

I saw it.

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« Reply #389 on: May 13, 2025, 04:54:PM »
I saw it.
Hi Jane, really interesting don’t you think?  Everyone trusted him and was seen as a nice and trusting  man yet the cruel way he was playing mind games with them.  The Daughter was blamed as well and I think some still believe she had something to do with it?