Adam's Claims...

[David1819]

What do you believe of PB After all she was the closest relative given that her sister was murdered.

She died in early 86 IIRC . The circumstances of her will being changed less than a month after the murders is very shady. Another subject that the Jury were not aware of.

[David1819]

AE and RWB in collusion for me. I believe DB to be somewhat of an enigma. Although he is the one who has taken part in numerous of documentaries and had an indepth conversation with Eric Allison.

What do you believe of PB After all she was the closest relative given that her sister was murdered.

Its possible he did simply find the silencer and does not know what AE or RWB done to it after.

I find his comments about his sister in the NY article rather telling.

[Adam]

I find personally just my opinion and agree with Mark Williams Thomas that it would be ludicrous of a gulity JB to have put the silencer back in the cupboard. Its my opinion he would have disposed of it or at least throughly cleaned it.

He would not have to be backspatter expert. He would have been aware that the silencer had come into contact with shelias skin.

I struggle with the factor of Nicholas's blood wasn't found in the silencer.

The silencer was put back in it's box. Don't believe the police even opened the box.

Afterwards he would not have realised the relatives were suspicious & were going to get access to WHF. Together with not realising the silencer was incriminating.

[ILB]

She died in early 86 IIRC . The circumstances of her will being changed less than a month after the murders is very shady. Another subject that the Jury were not aware of.

Pamela Boutflour? Do you mean Mabel speak man the grandmother?

Believe Pamela Boutflour died some years ago and did outlive RB.

[ILB]

The silencer was put back in it's box. Don't believe the police even opened the box.

Afterwards he would not have realised the relatives were suspicious & were going to get access to WHF. Together with not realising the silencer was incriminating.

How much forensic awareness do you believe Bamber had?

Why do you believe he ordered the burning of carpets and other artefacts?

[David1819]

Pamela Boutflour? Do you mean Mabel speak man the grandmother?

Believe Pamela Boutflour died some years ago and did outlive RB.

Yeah that is who I was talking about.

[ILB]

Yeah that is who I was talking about.

In the event of an aquittal for Jeremy Bamber I do believe he would mount a private prosecution against JM and AE, if the CPS takes no action.

Jeremy is strong minded and litigious. And putting it bluntly will want revenge big style.

[Bubo bubo]

How much forensic awareness do you believe Bamber had?

Why do you believe he ordered the burning of carpets and other artefacts?

I am sorry Ilb but you are repeating a misleading story that is constantly used by guilters. JB did not order the destruction. The police sought/requested his approval and he signed an authorisation. It was the police that burned material on the Wednesday I believe . They initiated this act.

JB burned his parents clothing on the following weekend. I have seen a copy of this document but please do not ask me to find it again.

[Adam]

How much forensic awareness do you believe Bamber had?

Why do you believe he ordered the burning of carpets and other artefacts?

Not very aware. He may have only realised the rifle with silencer was too long for Sheila on the night.

Thought he was asked about removals/burnings & agreed.

Do you believe he would use a silencer in a silent massacre attempt?

[ILB]

Not very aware. He may have only realised the rifle with silencer was too long for Sheila on the night.

Thought he was asked about removals/burnings & agreed.

Do you believe he would use a silencer in a silent massacre attempt?

Believe he asked for it to be burnt but will recheck.

In answer to your question, it's a possibility

However the sound moderator on its self is not effective in trying to not disturb the household.

Breaking into a property in the middle of the night even a property such as WHF comes with the risk that the occupants could wake.

[ILB]

I am sorry Ilb but you are repeating a misleading story that is constantly used by guilters. JB did not order the destruction. The police sought/requested his approval and he signed an authorisation. It was the police that burned material on the Wednesday I believe . They initiated this act.

JB burned his parents clothing on the following weekend. I have seen a copy of this document but please do not ask me to find it again.

I am actually quoting Wilkes Bubo. I am also not a guilter.

[ILB]

Must get my laps in the pool in the late maspolomas sun, blighty bound tomorrow back to the grind. Speak later.

[Bubo bubo]

I am actually quoting Wilkes Bubo. I am also not a guilter.

I was not implying you were. I understand your position. I have seen the authorisation document. I believe there was a discussion initiated by the police during the long day that followed during which he was giving his first statement. They suggested the burning but said he had to give authorisation for that and installing a security system. Wilkes may be wrong on this point in that his wording suggests JB was the driving force.
you could say that technically he ordered it by signing. He was now the head of the household so he was in charge

[ILB]

I was not implying you were. I understand your position. I have seen the authorisation document. I believe there was a discussion initiated by the police during the long day that followed during which he was giving his first statement. They suggested the burning but said he had to give authorisation for that and installing a security system. Wilkes may be wrong on this point in that his wording suggests JB was the driving force.
you could say that technically he ordered it by signing. He was now the head of the household so he was in charge

The insinuation from some of the guilt camp  is that he did this because he was forensic aware enough to be worried what potentially at least could be yielded. The same with the cremations. When his parents in particular June were staunch Christians and would want a burial.

[Adam]

He would take the silencer off after shooting Sheila. She was shot last.

This was after realising on the night or knowing beforehand she could not shoot herself with it on.

It was then a case of - 'do I leave it next to Sheila, or put it back in it's box when I go downstairs'.