Adam's Claims...

[Hardy Boy]

Really shocked that the moderator wasn't discovered in the immediate aftermath.

Not so much a case of them not looking it for it in the first place. I mean it just been found due to general inqusitvness.

The door of the cupboard was easily accessible and what would have been found would have piqued interest as a matter of common sense.

In think you answered that question earlier……….. Shows you how lax things were back in the day.  why look for something that wasn’t there on the murder weapon,  on a murder/ suicide call by Taff,  especially when Bamber said the rifle was left out for Sheila minus the silencer? 

[Bubo bubo]

Are you saying he made up the Rabbit story then or are you saying it’s true but he went out after a hard days work to shoot rabbits late in the evening just get out the way?  One minute you say it maybe true, then you throw in however?

That is because it is part of the case which we cannot know.  Both could true. Both could be false. JB is the only survivor and we can give him the benefit of doubt or not as the case maybe.

[Hardy Boy]

That is because it is part of the case which we cannot know.  Both could true. Both could be false. JB is the only survivor and we can give him the benefit of doubt or not as the case maybe.

Thank you for being honest Bubo.

[Bubo bubo]

In think you answered that question earlier……….. Shows you how lax things were back in the day.  why look for something that wasn’t there on the murder weapon,  on a murder/ suicide call by Taff,  especially when Bamber said the rifle was left out for Sheila minus the silencer?

Where is the evidence for this sweeping statement. I think he just said he left it out etc. Not that he left it out for Sheila.

[ILB]

That is because it is part of the case which we cannot know.  Both could true. Both could be false. JB is the only survivor and we can give him the benefit of doubt or not as the case maybe.

If you doubt the rifle scenario you doubt the rifle being left out. You are then left with shelia having to get it from the cupboard and then load it etc

[Hardy Boy]

Where is the evidence for this sweeping statement. I think he just said he left it out etc. Not that he left it out for Sheila.

Didn't he at some stage blame himself for leaving the rifle out for Sheila? I might have read it before not quite sure, anyway it was left out minus the silencer.

[Adam]

Really shocked that the moderator wasn't discovered in the immediate aftermath.

Not so much a case of them not looking it for it in the first place. I mean it just been found due to general inqusitvness.

The door of the cupboard was easily accessible and what would have been found would have piqued interest as a matter of common sense.

Immediate aftermath. You mean by the police?

Doubt they even took it out of the box.

[Adam]

Didn't he at some stage blame himself for leaving the rifle out for Sheila? I might have read it before not quite sure, anyway it was left out minus the silencer.

Testified he was being laxidasical.

Also said 'I didn't know what was going to happen, did I'.

[Adam]

Bamber leaving the rifle and ammunition out is doubtful.

Nevill & June were in the kitchen. So he would have put it back in the gun cupboard. If he didn't he would have been told to.

[Bubo bubo]

Didn't he at some stage blame himself for leaving the rifle out for Sheila? I might have read it before not quite sure, anyway it was left out minus the silencer.

Then you should not have phrased it, as you did. I am sure he regrets leaving it out and to some extent he blames himself. But on the other side it was lazy and silly but he could not have foreseen SC's psychotic breakdown after he had left.

[Adam]

The carnage inside WHF was done by someone very powerful, proficient & determined. Who knew weapons.

Easier to just suggest Sheila took the rifle from the unlocked gun cupboard.

But the rabbit story was pre planned & he could not retract once he had started it.

[Adam]

I did not know about back spatter prior to looking at this case.

Had seen lots of blood in films. From powerful weapons. But would not expect anything from a rifle used for shooting rabbits.

But Sheila received contact shots in areas of high blood flow. Which was enough for a small amount of back spatter.

[Adam]

Not sure why Bamber would take the silencer with him & throw it in the sea.

Rob says he should have left it next to Sheila!

[Hardy Boy]

Then you should not have phrased it, as you did. I am sure he regrets leaving it out and to some extent he blames himself. But on the other side it was lazy and silly but he could not have foreseen SC's psychotic breakdown after he had left.

Why, Bamber said he left the rifle out minus the silencer, and he says Sheila killed everyone with that same rifle minus the silencer,  so he left the rifle out for Sheila minus the silencer?

[Hardy Boy]

Not sure why Bamber would take the silencer with him & throw it in the sea.

Rob says he should have left it next to Sheila!

How far would he be able to throw it, what if it was washed up the next day by the tide? Do they have serial numbers identifiable to the person who owns it?