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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #120 on: May 03, 2025, 07:51:PM »
It isn't well documented at all.  The ws's are poorly written. 

There was no their or they just DS Jones!

Just out of interest what do you believe the scale of money incentivsation would have been for Stan to undertake such an endeavour?
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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #121 on: May 03, 2025, 07:54:PM »
Although open minded and not closed to the idea I struggle to think why DS Jones would go on basically a course of action called " get Bamber " whilst acknowledging and personally being victim to 80s bully boy police tactics ( on a much lesser scale of course)

There HAS to have been a large scale payment to him to have undertaken the course of action.
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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #122 on: May 03, 2025, 07:56:PM »
Stan wasn't completely pally with the relatives in the early stages.

Scolding AE when she moaned about Jeremy selling or valuing items. And reminding her it "wasn't her business "

Accept he was having to tow the initial official line of enquiry and result.
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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #123 on: May 03, 2025, 09:15:PM »
It doesn't make them less valid. Julie didn't go to police of her own accord, a point in her favour.

But had JM, former grammar school and undergrad, written them you might think the quality would be better?
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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #124 on: May 03, 2025, 09:29:PM »
And Johnny Walker.

Hoho.  I wonder if he had a preferred brand?  He was unfairly portrayed in CAL's ITV adaptation as having a beer belly and being a bit scruffy/unshaven which he wasn't. 
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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #125 on: May 03, 2025, 09:36:PM »
Just out of interest what do you believe the scale of money incentivsation would have been for Stan to undertake such an endeavour?

I've no idea if he was offered a financial incentive and if so how much. 

There have been many cases where the police have falsified evidence and witness testimony without financial incentive.  The incentive in these cases might have been to appease the hierarchy and media and/or maintain postion/promotion.

We have to accept in this case the police already had a suspect in SC. 
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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #126 on: May 03, 2025, 09:44:PM »
Although open minded and not closed to the idea I struggle to think why DS Jones would go on basically a course of action called " get Bamber " whilst acknowledging and personally being victim to 80s bully boy police tactics ( on a much lesser scale of course)

There HAS to have been a large scale payment to him to have undertaken the course of action.

But we don't know anything about DS Jones' psyche. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #127 on: May 03, 2025, 09:52:PM »
Hoho.  I wonder if he had a preferred brand?  He was unfairly portrayed in CAL's ITV adaptation as having a beer belly and being a bit scruffy/unshaven which he wasn't.

Also I believe Mark Addys portrayal wasn't accurate in the sense of DS Jones being a caring individual.

But I do believe there was some severe power dynamics one man upmanship going off in CID at the time.
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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #128 on: May 03, 2025, 09:53:PM »
But we don't know anything about DS Jones' psyche.

So why do you have him climbing through windows, putting blood in silencers & bullying JM?
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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #129 on: May 03, 2025, 09:58:PM »
But we don't know anything about DS Jones' psyche.

Do you think he was jealous of JB?
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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #130 on: May 03, 2025, 10:08:PM »
So why do you have him climbing through windows, putting blood in silencers & bullying JM?

Because that's what the totality of the evidence shows. 

I mean we do not know what motivated him.
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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #131 on: May 03, 2025, 10:12:PM »
Do you think he was jealous of JB?

Jealous?  Maybe envious?
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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #132 on: May 03, 2025, 10:17:PM »
Because that's what the totality of the evidence shows. 

I mean we do not know what motivated him.

Do you think SJ fabricating the silencer should have been a ground in 89, 2002, 2012 or 2021?
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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #133 on: May 03, 2025, 10:19:PM »
So why do you have him climbing through windows, putting blood in silencers & bullying JM?

Climbing through windows? I'm pretty sure PE simply opened the front door to give it to him?  :))

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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #134 on: May 03, 2025, 10:59:PM »
Jealous?  Maybe envious?

I can see a jealousy forming between a cocksure 24 year old coming into significant wealth and a haggard detective.

From what we're lead to believe though he took an instant dislike to JB, from the outset. Which is unusual.
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