The AGA burns revisited.

[snow66!]

He couldn't burn him upstairs. The instrument would get cold.

Couldn't JB have simply held a lit match or butane lighter against Nevills flesh to see if he was alive? Or even poked him with a needle which would leave no trace?
Why would JB go to the work of heating anything up, seems over the top!
And as we have discussed before, why did it take three burns to get a reaction instesd of only one?
The more I think about it the surer I am that the Aga made the burns, its the only rational explanation!
Bubo suggested it years ago, and then Philip Boyce as good as replicated the marks with his experiment after JB and Yvonne Hartley pointed out the possibility to him!
Yes, if the burns were inflicted on the night of the murders, they were made purely by accident by the Aga handles!

[ILB]

You said you thought it "unusual"?

Anyway, I have now looked at the image where NB is silhouetted which shows the surrounding area/chair etc clearer.  No I don't think it is unusual.  NB was a tall man with long legs so I can see how he would topple and end up in that position.  It would probably be unusual for someone like me as I am only 5' 3".

I must admit I find it unusual in terms of the positioning of the chair supporting his frame. I would have thought gravity wise he would have fell to the floor.

[snow66!]

I must admit I find it unusual in terms of the positioning of the chair supporting his frame. I would have thought gravity wise he would have fell to the floor.

I would suggest otherwise, ILB, it looks to me like Nevill is supported by the chair, the scuttle, and  he's also leaning against the wall.

[Curiosity]

Yet more clutching at hot coals by the DocMaker/Campaigners.  It's glaringly obvious from their own video/photos that the distance between the handle top and the corner of the ball-catch housing (photo 1) is over twice that which would have caused the top two burn marks as shown on the original mortuary nape photo. Boyce's composite (photo 2) attempts to mislead viewers (and lull the CCRC) into thinking that the two contact points are much closer than they actually are. A seriously flawed experiment using an oil-fired AGA too, with different thermal characteristics to the coal-fired one at WHF which on an early August night was highly unlikely to have been at full whack to inflict any such burns, and especially so, low down on the AGA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTP_xfKfXfo&ab_channel=BamberVsTheDocMaker

[snow66!]

Yet more clutching at hot coals by the DocMaker/Campaigners.  It's glaringly obvious from their own video/photos that the distance between the handle top and the corner of the ball-catch housing (photo 1) is over twice that which would have caused the top two burn marks as shown on the original mortuary nape photo. Boyce's composite (photo 2) attempts to mislead viewers (and lull the CCRC) into thinking that the two contact points are much closer than they actually are. A seriously flawed experiment using an oil-fired AGA too, with different thermal characteristics to the coal-fired one at WHF which on an early August night was highly unlikely to have been at full whack to inflict any such burns, and especially so, low down on the AGA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTP_xfKfXfo&ab_channel=BamberVsTheDocMaker

But didn't they explain in the Doc Maker about Nevills head being pushed forward while lying against the Aga and then lying flat on the morgue table contracting the distance between the two marks, Curiosity?

[Curiosity]

But didn't they explain in the Doc Maker about Nevills head being pushed forward while lying against the Aga and then lying flat on the morgue table contracting the distance between the two marks, Curiosity?

The skin on the nape, centrally where the burns/marks are, is thin and taut with no underlying muscle or other tissue that is capable of stretching the distance between claimed points of contact, then contracting afterwards, no matter how much a neck is bent. Their claims are fanciful to say the least.

[snow66!]

The skin on the nape, centrally where the burns/marks are, is thin and taut with no underlying muscle or other tissue that is capable of stretching the distance between claimed points of contact, then contracting afterwards, no matter how much a neck is bent. Their claims are fanciful to say the least.

I'm not sure exactly where the top mark is on Nevills back, Curiosity?
Bur surely Boyce and the team can back up their claims, else their evidence is going nowhere with the CCRC.

[Cambridgecutie]

I'm not sure exactly where the top mark is on Nevills back, Curiosity?
Bur surely Boyce and the team can back up their claims, else their evidence is going nowhere with the CCRC.

The penny is starting to drop. 

[snow66!]

The penny is starting to drop. 

No, not at all, Cutie, I simply cant believe that Philip Boyce and the CT would bother to submit the Aga evidence unless it is compelling to say the least!
I mean, if one mark had been on Nevills arm, one on his back and one on his leg, forget it!
But just look at how close the marks are to corresponding with the Aga handles!
Tantalizingly close, tantalizingly!
You would be foolish to rule out Boyce completely, Cutie, and I think you know this at the back of your mind!