Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber

[BarefootDanC]

No.  How did the snowball get rolling?

Relatives - Dripping poison into the ears of EP.  Would have fallen on deaf ears without:

Snowball

DS Jones - Fabricated the outside of the silencer: blood, hair, paint and scratches.  Genuinely believes JB guilty.  Wants to play God and prove his superiors wrong.  Gets off on the media coverage and enjoys knowing he is controlling events.  Maybe financially incentivised by PE/relatives.

Snowball

DS Jones - Put the frighteners on JM and secured her testimony

Snowball

FSS - Told everyone thinks he dunnit including his surviving family.  And his bird said he planned it.  And the outside of the silencer supports his involvement but DPP say we need something more.  Can you help us out?  Otherwise he's going to get away with 5 murders and 500K.

Snowball

A flake of blood is 'found' inside the silencer said to match SC's blood groups.

Conviction

Oh, so Julie Mugford wasn't a scorned woman at all then!

[Cambridgecutie]

Oh, so Julie Mugford wasn't a scorned woman at all then!

No.  A frightened woman with the threat of accessory to murder hanging over her.

[Steve_uk]

No.  A frightened woman with the threat of accessory to murder hanging over her.

That can be true and her statements can also be true. They are not mutually exclusive.

[Hardy Boy]

No.  A frightened woman with the threat of accessory to murder hanging over her.

frightened, and  someone who had been dumped and out for revenge.

[Hardy Boy]

Sorry HB that was not my intention. I believe Dan answered your question I was moving the debate on with additional information. Dan posted your answer while I was researching.  No intention to deceive. It is clear they were testing blood on a SM before JM came forward. These seem to be initial tests to establish whether it was human or animal. The amounts involved were only small and precise tests were not possible to identify type etc and 'human' was the outcome.

Yes, Stan was made aware on the 14th of August that the blood from the silencer was Human.  I think he went on leave the day or two after and didn’t return to the investigation till 2nd of Sept, Barlow took over the investigation while Stan was off. So Glynis Howard had removed blood from the outside and inside I think she means the knurled end, and tested it on the 13th of August. To test for types of blood grouping would take longer I suppose?

[Adam]

No.  A frightened woman with the threat of accessory to murder hanging over her.

SJ just had to tell her a few facts.

The case was on going. Evidence had been & was being processed. Bamber was a strong suspect. It was better she told him now what she knew.

Probably took a soft approach as she had approached him.

[Cambridgecutie]

Yes, Stan was made aware on the 14th of August that the blood from the silencer was Human.  I think he went on leave the day or two after and didn’t return to the investigation till 2nd of Sept, Barlow took over the investigation while Stan was off. So Glynis Howard had removed blood from the outside and inside I think she means the knurled end, and tested it on the 13th of August. To test for types of blood grouping would take longer I suppose?

It must have been a total shock to discover his blood was human in origin 

Insufficient quantity. 

[Adam]

Can't see the police taking a heavy handed approach with witnesses that approach them. Who may have important information..

They will be friendly.

[Cambridgecutie]

SJ just had to tell her a few facts.

The case was on going. Evidence had been & was being processed. Bamber was a strong suspect. It was better she told him now what she knew.

Probably took a soft approach as she had approached him.

She did not approach him he approached her. 

[Adam]

She did not approach him he approached her.

She contacted SJ via phone. At Liz Rimmington's property.

She had told 5 people between the 27th August - 8th September.

[Cambridgecutie]

She contacted SJ via phone. At Liz Rimmington's property.

She had told 5 people between the 27th August - 8th September.

You have no evidence for this by way of phone records as would be available today.

[Adam]

You have no evidence for this by way of phone records as would be available today.

It is well documentated.

You are entitled to believe SJ bullied & scared JM into a 23 page WS within 24 hours. 

I do not believe that would be there tactic or that they would need to after JM had left Bamber, told 5 people & approached the police.

[Cambridgecutie]

It is well documentated.

You are entitled to believe SJ bullied & scared JM into a 23 page WS within 24 hours. 

I do not believe that would be there tactic or that they would need to after JM had left Bamber, told 5 people & approached the police.

It isn't well documented at all.  The ws's are poorly written. 

There was no their or they just DS Jones!

[Steve_uk]

It isn't well documented at all.  The ws's are poorly written. 

There was no their or they just DS Jones!

It doesn't make them less valid. Julie didn't go to police of her own accord, a point in her favour.

[ILB]

It isn't well documented at all.  The ws's are poorly written. 

There was no their or they just DS Jones!

And Johnny Walker.