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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #90 on: May 02, 2025, 08:06:AM »
How will they overcome the blood /silencer evidence? There is nothing left to test.

Julie's WS is unbreakable & she will never retract.

You are assuming there was something to test in the first place  ;)

The blood/silencer evidence will be shown for what it is.
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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #91 on: May 02, 2025, 08:09:AM »
You are assuming there was something to test in the first place  ;)

The blood/silencer evidence will be shown for what it is.

You need expert opinion to back up your theory.

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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #92 on: May 02, 2025, 08:10:AM »
I think that this aspect could have occurred at the FSS. I posted this some time ago.

It is possible that it was MF. He received some blood and tissue with the bullet PV20. Some of the blood could have formed in a flake and he could have claimed he found it when examining the sound moderator.
I still find it strange that RWC never found it (it was claimed to be loose) when he dismantled the SM and photographed it on the 21/08/85. I believe the flake was measured and was 5mm. It was not large.

You are assuming there was a flake of blood said to measure 1/4" 'found' inside the silencer. 

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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #93 on: May 02, 2025, 08:11:AM »
You need expert opinion to back up your theory.

Of course  :)
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #94 on: May 02, 2025, 08:16:AM »
Better late than never.

Well hopefully JB will start smelling the coffee when the most recent submission is thrown out. 
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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #95 on: May 02, 2025, 08:20:AM »
There may have been a severe case of one man upmanship at stake within the CID division and he may have seen Bamber as a golden goose.

Believe he retired in 1991, wonder if he stayed at DS in the aftermath or went up in ranks.

He remained at the rank of DS at the time of retirement in '91.  I could not find anything in the Essex police rag for that period with any 'nice' words wishing him well.

Incidentally post conviction, Oct '86, a number of officers were promoted to more senior positions.  I will look them up when I have time. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #96 on: May 02, 2025, 08:22:AM »
Thanks Bubo, what date was this do you know? Must have been early if he says it was wet blood, surely blood on a bullet would dry pretty quickly?   I can’t quite follow it yet poor connection and reading ability, no internet service.

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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #97 on: May 02, 2025, 08:25:AM »
Before, Glynis Howard started the tests on the 13th of August. I can’t post it, because I’m using my iPhone and I don’t know how to copy and paste documents from this, if you go to her statements she says she removed blood from inside and outside of the silencer on this day?

No.  The inside she is referring to is the inside of the aperture ie no dismantling.  The so-called flake was  not 'found' until 12th Sep when we are told the silencer was opened up and the end caps unscrewed and baffles tipped out.
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #98 on: May 02, 2025, 08:26:AM »
Another case where the forensic scientist who went on to be charged with perverting the course of justice also went on to head up FSS Huntingdon when and where the Bamber exhibits were under examination.  How is this a diversion and nonsense with another case?  I would have thought by most people's standards it is highly relevant?

Who did they agree with?  Look at my post: head of FSS Huntingdon and obviously some senior heavyweight with EP, DPP or HO.  Of course they didn't say 'fabricate the evidence' just 'pull out all the stops'.  Use your loaf Softy Boy.
You like to use the word God don’t you, so everyone playing God  ;)

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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #99 on: May 02, 2025, 08:30:AM »
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when out camping I always forget things, the signal and not having my glasses have made it hard work!

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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #100 on: May 02, 2025, 08:33:AM »
No problem, cutie is moving the goal posts each statement she makes, I thought you was doing the same, she’s gone From Stan climbing through the window to not doing so now, now she’s trying to link the FSS and Julie’s statement in some way, by saying the FSS went with the snowballing effect, then she throws another case in, nothing at all to do with Bamber, just  to bolster her theory.  She’s all over the place, because she realises what a fool she made of herself by accusing Stan of climbing through the window.

When did he help himself to the contents of NB's wallet? 

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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #101 on: May 02, 2025, 08:34:AM »
No.  The inside she is referring to is the inside of the aperture ie no dismantling.  The so-called flake was  not 'found' until 12th Sep when we are told the silencer was opened up and the end caps unscrewed and baffles tipped out.
You could be right, without checking I can’t disagree with you.

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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #102 on: May 02, 2025, 08:36:AM »
When did he help himself to the contents of NB's wallet?
Maybe write to his surviving Family and ask them yourself?

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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #103 on: May 02, 2025, 08:43:AM »
You are assuming there was a flake of blood said to measure 1/4" 'found' inside the silencer.

I am not I have given various thoughts as to the origin of the flake. One of these is that there never was a flake.

Have you completed your analysis of the McKenzie report. It suggests some very worrying points. I will not list them all since it is only a few pages and readers can see the claims for themselves.

1 There was never a flake of blood in the silencer.

2 As expounded by Holly Goodhead on Red and her analysis of the serological components being unable to remain viable over time, the blood on the baffles is not conclusively Sheila's.

3 MF dismantled the SM on the 13/08/85. I have seen no GER for this and it is claimed the HOLAB 5 form is a fake. Why would RC dismantle it again if he knew this?

4 JH did not conduct the tests on the flake but testified as if he had.

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Re: Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber
« Reply #104 on: May 02, 2025, 09:54:AM »
You like to use the word God don’t you, so everyone playing God  ;)

No.  How did the snowball get rolling?

Relatives - Dripping poison into the ears of EP.  Would have fallen on deaf ears without:

Snowball

DS Jones - Fabricated the outside of the silencer: blood, hair, paint and scratches.  Genuinely believes JB guilty.  Wants to play God and prove his superiors wrong.  Gets off on the media coverage and enjoys knowing he is controlling events.  Maybe financially incentivised by PE/relatives.

Snowball

DS Jones - Put the frighteners on JM and secured her testimony

Snowball

FSS - Told everyone thinks he dunnit including his surviving family.  And his bird said he planned it.  And the outside of the silencer supports his involvement but DPP say we need something more.  Can you help us out?  Otherwise he's going to get away with 5 murders and 500K.

Snowball

A flake of blood is 'found' inside the silencer said to match SC's blood groups.

Conviction


« Last Edit: May 02, 2025, 10:03:AM by Cambridgecutie »
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs