Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber

[Jane]

But it wasn't his m.o when he dealt with JB at WHF ie 'they're dead and the sooner you accept it the better' and PE was related to the Bambers by marriage to AE.

It's not impossible that he saw through JB's presentation. He wasn't the only one.

[Cambridgecutie]

It's not impossible that he saw through JB's presentation. He wasn't the only one.

The police surgeon seemed to think JB's reactions were genuine and normal and I guess he must have seen a fair few especially as he was approaching retirement.  Chief Sup Harris seemed to share his opinion so too other senior officers eg DCI Jones.

[ILB]

I believe DS Jones was a see you next Tuesday personally.

From the interview impressions I have seen of him over the years you get a gauge of an individual very quickly and he doesn't come across as very bright at all, and this is coming from a simpleton like myself.

[David1819]

I believe DS Jones was a see you next Tuesday personally.

From the interview impressions I have seen of him over the years you get a gauge of an individual very quickly and he doesn't come across as very bright at all, and this is coming from a simpleton like myself.

He was the only one daft enough to consider what the relatives were saying to him.

[snow66!]

I believe DS Jones was a see you next Tuesday personally.

From the interview impressions I have seen of him over the years you get a gauge of an individual very quickly and he doesn't come across as very bright at all, and this is coming from a simpleton like myself.

I could barely make out what he was saying most of the time, ILB!

[Adam]

Even if this was true, which it isn't, how does it exonerate JB?  It doesn't.

It would show that EP or the raid team moved Nevill onto the coal scuttle/chair   After entrance and before photos.

Then did not disclose that.

The 12 raid team WS's say Nevill was found on the coal scuttle/chair. The police WS's will say the same.

So quite serious if they all lied. And new evidence not available at trial.

But can't see why they would move Nevill so quickly into such a strange position. Then all deny it.

[Curiosity]

I could barely make out what he was saying most of the time, ILB!

Make an emergency appointment with Lugholesavers asap. They'll syringe out a 50 year build-up of wax for a tenner.

[Curiosity]

He was the only one daft enough to consider what the relatives were saying to him.

The Eatons and Boutflours smelled a rat in the nest from the start and shrewd Stan got a strong whiff of that too.

[ILB]

The Eatons and Boutflours smelled a rat in the nest.

Or smelt £

[Cambridgecutie]

It would show that EP or the raid team moved Nevill onto the coal scuttle/chair   After entrance and before photos.

Then did not disclose that.

The 12 raid team WS's say Nevill was found on the coal scuttle/chair. The police WS's will say the same.

So quite serious if they all lied. And new evidence not available at trial.

But can't see why they would move Nevill so quickly into such a strange position. Then all deny it.

Yes I appreciate that but it still would not overcome the blood/silencer evidence and JM's testimony which had nothing to do with the raid team. 

The idea that 12 raid team members all fabricated their testimony is just more utter nonsense from JB/CT. 

[Cambridgecutie]

I believe DS Jones was a see you next Tuesday personally.

From the interview impressions I have seen of him over the years you get a gauge of an individual very quickly and he doesn't come across as very bright at all, and this is coming from a simpleton like myself.

Well he was bright enough to get the ball rolling with the silencer and securing JM's testimony.  But yeah I get what you're saying he was an accident waiting to happen and needed to be on a long leash imo.  It seemed to me it was a busy time for EP with summer hols and PACE training.  Perhaps ordinarily he would be more accountable to the likes of DCI Jones and Chief Sup Harris. 

[Hardy Boy]

Well he was bright enough to get the ball rolling with the silencer and securing JM's testimony.  But yeah I get what you're saying he was an accident waiting to happen and needed to be on a long leash imo.  It seemed to me it was a busy time for EP with summer hols and PACE training.  Perhaps ordinarily he would be more accountable to the likes of DCI Jones and Chief Sup Harris.

He wanted to play God and took a bung according to you, and the FSS contaminated the inside of the silencer, did they want to play God as well?

[Cambridgecutie]

He wanted to play God and took a bung according to you, and the FSS contaminated the inside of the silencer, did they want to play God as well?

As far as the FSS was concerned the outside of the silencer and JM's testimony were authentic pieces of evidence gathered using normal investigatory techniques.  Hence it agreed to get the case over the line by producing a set of test results.  Ie snowball effect. 

You can see the same in the case of Stefan Kizsko where 4 teenage girls lied "for a laugh" and SK gave a false confession due to the police not following interview porotcol.  The lab then agreed to get the case over the line by supressing forensic evidence that would have exonerated SK.

[Adam]

Yes I appreciate that but it still would not overcome the blood/silencer evidence and JM's testimony which had nothing to do with the raid team. 

The idea that 12 raid team members all fabricated their testimony is just more utter nonsense from JB/CT.

How will they overcome the blood /silencer evidence? There is nothing left to test.

Julie's WS is unbreakable & she will never retract.

[Hardy Boy]

As far as the FSS was concerned the outside of the silencer and JM's testimony were authentic pieces of evidence gathered using normal investigatory techniques.  Hence it agreed to get the case over the line by producing a set of test results.  Ie snowball effect. 

You can see the same in the case of Stefan Kizsko where 4 teenage girls lied "for a laugh" and SK gave a false confession due to the police not following interview porotcol.  The lab then agreed to get the case over the line by supressing forensic evidence that would have exonerated SK.

Who did they agree with to get the case over the line?   Stop diverting your nonsense with another case. So you say the FSS agreed in the Bamber case to get it over the line to convict Jeremy, who did they agree with?   Who in their wisdom decided to put blood on the inside of the silencer on the baffle plates creating back splatter?