Brief clip audio of Jeremy Bamber

[ILB]

Brief audio interview

https://youtu.be/3KvKULMvOUs?si=Q8J4BMuWjPPQZNEI

[Cambridgecutie]

Brief audio interview

https://youtu.be/3KvKULMvOUs?si=Q8J4BMuWjPPQZNEI

JB came over well until he said "and they know it". 

Most, if not all, the documents capable of winning an appeal are available eg expert evidence from trial and from various other times eg CoA. 

If there was any 'smoking gun' it would simply have been destroyed not archived. 

There could be many valid reasons why case papers have been archived.  Eg closed adoptions ensure strict confidentiality:

https://www.ramsdens.co.uk/open-or-closed-adoption-a-question-we-all-need-to-be-asking/#:~:text=Closed%20adoption%20ensures%20strict%20confidentiality,to%20many%20families%20and%20professionals. 

Closed adoption ensures strict confidentiality about the identity of both the adoptive and biological parents and can seem ‘safer’ to many families and professionals

Medi records of June and NB might be another example.  Especially June's psychiatric treatment pre and post adoption.

[ILB]

JB came over well until he said "and they know it". 

Turn of phrase.

[Cambridgecutie]

Turn of phrase.

Disagree.  It's the sort of stuff BFDC talks about ie conspiratorial.  No one in authority knows JB is innocent. 

[ILB]

Disagree.  It's the sort of stuff BFDC talks about ie conspiratorial.  No one in authority knows JB is innocent.

I thought I had detected some saddended emotion from his voice. Not verge of tears but slightly emotional.

[BarefootDanC]

Brief audio interview

https://youtu.be/3KvKULMvOUs?si=Q8J4BMuWjPPQZNEI

This is an old chestnut. Jeremy's Bambers file are sealed at Kew and Bamber and his supporters are claiming this is evidence of non-disclosure, but it is not.

They are just sealed from the public. Bamber has all his documents.

The same is true of Peter Sutcliffe - his records are also sealed:

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14511264

[ngb1066]

This is an old chestnut. Jeremy's Bambers file are sealed at Kew and Bamber and his supporters are claiming this is evidence of non-disclosure, but it is not.

They are just sealed from the public. Bamber has all his documents.

The same is true of Peter Sutcliffe - his records are also sealed:

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C14511264

I can assure you that Jeremy Bamber does not have access to all the files.

[ILB]

I can assure you that Jeremy Bamber does not have access to all the files.

Correct.

[BarefootDanC]

I can assure you that Jeremy Bamber does not have access to all the files.

Prove it!

[ILB]

Prove it!

He is a category A prisoner, and even has to put in applications to access documents he has in possession. They are stored within the prison.

I think many misunderstand how actually curtailed and scruitzned the regime Bamber actually lives his life under.

[ILB]

JB still referring to  the polygraph years on.

The disappointment must have been off the wall when he realised it amounted to nothing Judicial system wise.

[Cambridgecutie]

JB still referring to  the polygraph years on.

The disappointment must have been off the wall when he realised it amounted to nothing Judicial system wise.

I've tried to get through to him in the past.  Another example is snow/'Aga burns'.  We can spend many a happy hour poring over all sorts of nonsense here but the CCRC/CoA are only interested in very narrow aspects of the case and anything outside is a complete non-starter.

[snow66!]

I've tried to get through to him in the past.  Another example is snow/'Aga burns'.  We can spend many a happy hour poring over all sorts of nonsense here but the CCRC/CoA are only interested in very narrow aspects of the case and anything outside is a complete non-starter.

Its odd that the Aga evidence hasn't been mentioned for quite some time, maybe thats a good sign, Cutie!

[ILB]

I've tried to get through to him in the past.  Another example is snow/'Aga burns'.  We can spend many a happy hour poring over all sorts of nonsense here but the CCRC/CoA are only interested in very narrow aspects of the case and anything outside is a complete non-starter.

I totally agree it's a none starter.

The only reason I give JB himself personally Lee way is because he's the one doing time and has been for almost 40 years. Any modicum of light at the end of the tunnel, whether it be newspaper article, polygraph, etc etc will spur JB on in his plight and maybe give him a personal boost. As said he is a prisoner, and it is his life.

In regards to his CT, legal team, or whoever sanctioned the Boyce experiment, absolute madness. I share your opinion in that it won't overturn the conviction. It is fundamentally a complete waste of time.

JB being sold the idea has no massive bearing in detriment to him, he's spent 39 years in jail come September 40 for a crime he says he didn't commit. Any deemed positive he will only naturally use to his perceived advantage.

[snow66!]

I totally agree it's a none starter.

The only reason I give JB himself personally Lee way is because he's the one doing time and has been for almost 40 years. Any modicum of light at the end of the tunnel, whether it be newspaper article, polygraph, etc etc will spur JB on in his plight and maybe give him a personal boost. As said he is a prisoner, and it is his life.

In regards to his CT, legal team, or whoever sanctioned the Boyce experiment, absolute madness. I share your opinion in that it won't overturn the conviction. It is fundamentally a complete waste of time.

JB being sold the idea has no massive bearing in detriment to him, he's spent 39 years in jail come September 40 for a crime he says he didn't commit. Any deemed positive he will only naturally use to his perceived advantage.

I believe it was JB himself and Yvonne who suggested to Boyce that the Aga may have made the marks, ILB!