Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981

[ILB]

How can it be pitch black with stars & a 68% moon in an open area?

Even Bamber's defence & the CT don't say this.

You are going too far with your support.

I'm not going to far with my support. I don't support him.

It would be dark it was 2am....

68 percent moon?

Don't tarnish me with Bambers CT, all my views are my own. You are being petulant.

[Adam]

I'm not going to far with my support. I don't support him.

It would be dark it was 2am....

68 percent moon?

Don't tarnish me with Bambers CT, all my views are my own. You are being petulant.

I have given you lots of sources that people can see in outside darkness. Where Bamber lived had no street lighting.

But if you want to be a lone wolf and say people can't see in outside darkness, feel free.

I do feel you are going too far with your support.

[ILB]

I have given you lots of sources that people can see in outside darkness. Where Bamber lived had no street lighting.

But if you want to be a lone wolf and say people can't see in outside darkness, feel free.

I do feel you are going too far with your support.

Couples in Surrey, and Christmas trees, the latest source is a bloke in sunglasses taking a stroll on the sea wall in daylight which appears to be the summertime almost 40 years on from the crime.

The closest we have had to anything that resembled the sea wall has come from myself a video dated from 1981 and that still is in daylight.

You claim to be a cycling expert, how many times have you cycled at 2am in rural areas over land?

Being a city boy like myself.

[Adam]

Couples in Surrey, and Christmas trees, the latest source is a bloke in sunglasses taking a stroll on the sea wall in daylight which appears to be the summertime almost 40 years on from the crime.

The closest we have had to anything that resembled the sea wall has come from myself a video dated from 1981 and that still is in daylight.

You claim to be a cycling expert, how many times have you cycled at 2am in rural areas over land?

Being a city boy like myself.

I have been in outside darkness with no artificial lighting.

And didn't bump into anything.

But if you believe people can't see in open area outside darkness, feel free.

[ILB]

But if you believe people can't see in open area outside darkness, feel free.

I don't suggest it results in blindness

Just difficulty cycling over terrain with no artifical lighting.

Making it a none starter.

[Adam]

I don't suggest it results in blindness

Just difficulty cycling over terrain with no artifical lighting.

Making it a none starter.

EP, the DPP, prosecution, defence, appeal courts disagree.

[Rob_]

I have been in outside darkness with no artificial lighting.

And didn't bump into anything.

But if you believe people can't see in open area outside darkness, feel free.

It's why people buy torches, you cannot avoid pot holes in London which would have much better lighting than the sea wall.

It takes quite a time for the eyes to become night adapted, you say you never bumped into anything where was this? Time date location?

[Adam]

It's why people buy torches, you cannot avoid pot holes in London which would have much better lighting than the sea wall.

It takes quite a time for the eyes to become night adapted, you say you never bumped into anything where was this? Time date location?

Do you want me to tell you what I wore as well?

What did you think of my 3 videos on page 1?

That is what I call a dream route.

[Rob_]

Do you want me to tell you what I wore as well?

What did you think of my 3 videos on page 1?

That is what I call a dream route.

What was the sea wall like 40 years ago? according to locals rough.

The time and weather conditions and where you are is very important, the clouds light pollution etc. makes a big difference. No I don't want to know what you were wearing just where you was, time and date so I can check if you are lying.

[ILB]

EP, the DPP, prosecution, defence, appeal courts disagree.

Don't believe transport has ever made an appeal point or a key point in the conviction.

Nice try.

[Adam]

What was the sea wall like 40 years ago? according to locals rough.

The time and weather conditions and where you are is very important, the clouds light pollution etc. makes a big difference. No I don't want to know what you were wearing just where you was, time and date so I can check if you are lying.

So you agree the videos show it is a dream route. Complete with park bench.

What was it like 40 years ago? Sounds exactly the same going by Wilkinson's WS.

[Adam]

Don't believe transport has ever made an appeal point or a key point in the conviction.

Nice try.

It was discussed at trial.

Agree Bamber has never submitted anything to the CCRC or COA saying The Sea Wall could not have been cycled.

[Rob_]

So you agree the videos show it is a dream route. Complete with park bench.

What was it like 40 years ago? Sounds exactly the same going by Wilkinson's WS.

I am going by what I have seen locals say about the sea wall 40 years ago, plus old pictures I have seen. No way could anyone cycle flat out along there at night with no lights.

No wonder Wilkinson did it in daylight, how long did it take him? too long!

[Adam]

I am going by what I have seen locals say about the sea wall 40 years ago, plus old pictures I have seen. No way could anyone cycle flat out along there at night with no lights.

No wonder Wilkinson did it in daylight, how long did it take him? too long!

Who said 'flat out'? Probably went at a good pace on the way back as hyped up.

Please post the sources from these locals. Why didn't Bamber's defence highlight this?

[ILB]

It was discussed at trial.

Agree Bamber has never submitted anything to the CCRC or COA saying The Sea Wall could not have been cycled.

A bike was found at his cottage.

He was never asked in cross examination or direct or in the former police interviews about the route.

Do you have trouble remembering things?