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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2025, 07:23:AM »
https://youtu.be/6sLkpy3YXjg?si=1-Vb3pLmvQQKwToM

Lots of cycle paths in open areas here. Not a property or hill in sight. 
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2025, 07:33:AM »
https://youtu.be/4Huds3UXS-w?si=WSPSzWL-AO10fRRR

Video says 'Enjoy a beautiful coastal walk'. (Or cycle ride).
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2025, 07:46:AM »
https://youtu.be/DSbqNpl43gk?si=P0sZEZtDveRNGah2

This man walks through GH into The Sea Wall entrance on Fish Street. Then walks The Sea Wall. 

Nothing that could not be cycled.

5 minutes, 30 seconds. Is that the green park bench Trudie sat on?
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2025, 08:05:AM »
Me on my bike could build up and maintain a good speed going at 30%. Whether day or night.  Providing I knew the route.

Bamber's bike was not as good. However he would be hyped up & cycling at a lot more than 30% on the way back.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2025, 11:24:PM »
A car was on the wall from the 1981 video.

We all have our own views upon it.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2025, 12:03:AM »
Not sure what else Bamber could have asked for.

Good terrain.

Flat terrain.

Passing no properties.

Open area. Good vision.

4.2 miles.

Minimal turns.

5 minutes from where he lived.

5 minutes from where he worked.

5 minutes from where he grew up.

The chance to do a trial run.

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There was even a park bench he could have a sit down on mid cycle.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2025, 12:07:AM »
Not sure where ILB's 2am BBQ's were supposed to be.

The cycle paths are used for cycling & narrow.

A 2am BBQ in the middle of a field between Head Street & WHF on a Tuesday is the strangest thing I have ever heard of.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2025, 12:12:PM »
Not sure what else Bamber could have asked for.

Good terrain.

Flat terrain.

Passing no properties.

Open area. Good vision.

4.2 miles.

Minimal turns.

5 minutes from where he lived.

5 minutes from where he worked.

5 minutes from where he grew up.

The chance to do a trial run.

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There was even a park bench he could have a sit down on mid cycle.

Took PC Wilkinson 35 minutes in the day time with a familiarity of the route.

Minimum round trip of 1 hour ten, probably more at night due to lack of vision.

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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2025, 12:14:PM »
On the video provided it shows a car being able to go down the track. But common sense shows he would just drive the 14 minute round trip via the road way.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2025, 12:19:PM »
Only way I could envision the sea wall in any capacity at all is if he walked it with a torch to enhance his vision.

The grass would have been overgrown in August, the path is narrow and there is drops to either side, too dangerous to cycle on a ladies bike with no artificial lighting. Nonsensical at 2am. Poor visibility. No natural lighting.

Bamber saying he didn't no the route.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2025, 12:22:PM »
Took PC Wilkinson 35 minutes in the day time with a familiarity of the route.

Minimum round trip of 1 hour ten, probably more at night due to lack of vision.

Familiarity of the route?

The videos show it won't take 8.5 minutes per mile. People can run a mile in under 4 minutes.

Wilkinson would be cycling at his own pace. Taking notes on the terrain & checking his pedometer 

Agree with Bamber it would take around 15 minutes.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2025, 12:24:PM »
On the video provided it shows a car being able to go down the track. But common sense shows he would just drive the 14 minute round trip via the road way.

Yes the videos show a lot of the route was suitable for motor vehicles, let alone bikes.

However it was a walk/cycle route. Complete with park bench.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2025, 12:29:PM »
Only way I could envision the sea wall in any capacity at all is if he walked it with a torch to enhance his vision.

The grass would have been overgrown in August, the path is narrow and there is drops to either side, too dangerous to cycle on a ladies bike with no artificial lighting. Nonsensical at 2am. Poor visibility. No natural lighting.

Bamber saying he didn't no the route.

Appreciate you will continue with 'it would be dark'. There is now nothing else.

That would not deter Bamber for the potential rewards.

He knew the route and there was enough ambient light in an open area. It is 4.2 miles not 42.

The bike arriving two days earlier.
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Re: Short video on goldhanger, sea wall chequers 1981
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2025, 12:31:PM »
Only way I could envision the sea wall in any capacity at all is if he walked it with a torch to enhance his vision.

The grass would have been overgrown in August, the path is narrow and there is drops to either side, too dangerous to cycle on a ladies bike with no artificial lighting. Nonsensical at 2am. Poor visibility. No natural lighting.

Bamber saying he didn't no the route.

He wasn't cycling on grass. He was cycling on public foot/cycle paths.
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