The timing of Jeremy's call to Julie Mugford

[Cambridgecutie]

Neville was knocked clean out by the AGA for hours and Hours before he phoned Jeremy according to snowy.  Cutie says Neville let Sheila go on a rampage while he phoned Jeremy to come over, and then walked into a ambush on the stairs, Sheila must have been like a sniper ready and waiting for his advance.,

Please don't associate me with the nonsense about Aga burns. 

It's what the totality of the soc evidence supports by way of blood stains to flooring/lack of, casings, distance of shots, trajectories and wound tracks.

[Adam]

Your 13 things are neither here nor there. 

Show me a soc reconstruction that trumps mine.  Impossible because there's only one narrative where all the parts documented and photographed at soc fit together.

If 13 things don't work. That does matter.

Nevill & June were ambushed in bed. It was 2am.

Simple.

[Cambridgecutie]

If 13 things don't work. That does matter.

Nevill & June were ambushed in bed. It was 2am.

Simple.

Your 13 things are based on perceptions and/or lack of evidence.

My soc reconstruction is evidenced based. 

[Curiosity]

Your 13 things are based on perceptions and/or lack of evidence.

My soc reconstruction is evidenced based. 

In your proposed 'reconstruction' the cartridge cases would have flown over the banister rail or between the balusters onto the lower stairs and/or Hall floor below, but surprise-surprise they magically disappeared from there and regenerated on the bedroom floor betwixt bed and cupboard with the rest of them.

[Hardy Boy]

Please don't associate me with the nonsense about Aga burns. 

It's what the totality of the soc evidence supports by way of blood stains to flooring/lack of, casings, distance of shots, trajectories and wound tracks.

Well he knew she had the rifle and going crazy, so he must have let her carry on doing what she was doing while he phoned Jeremy AGREED?

I’m at a bit of a disadvantage at the moment, my computer is knackered and I’m undecided what to do, either go back to Apple or stay with Windows. I might not even replace it till the winter months, All my files are on the computer and I’m just using my iPhone.

[Adam]

Your 13 things are based on perceptions and/or lack of evidence.

My soc reconstruction is evidenced based.

Some of the 13 things did happen - ringing Julie, ringing Chelmsford Police.

Some are just based on what Bamber says - Nevill ringing, Nevill not wanting the police involved.

[Adam]

In your proposed 'reconstruction' the cartridge cases would have flown over the banister rail or between the balusters onto the lower stairs and/or Hall floor below, but surprise-surprise they magically disappeared from there and regenerated on the bedroom floor betwixt bed and cupboard with the rest of them.

Guest29835 says the police moved 4 cartridges into the bedroom.

If the evidence doesn't fit your opinion, change it!

[Cambridgecutie]

In your proposed 'reconstruction' the cartridge cases would have flown over the banister rail or between the balusters onto the lower stairs and/or Hall floor below, but surprise-surprise they magically disappeared from there and regenerated on the bedroom floor betwixt bed and cupboard with the rest of them.

The casings are where would you would expect them to land.  The ejection port ejects to the right.  When NB sustained his facial wounds the ejection port was within the main bedroom.  When NB sustained his shoulder and elbow/chest shots the ejection port was facing down the stairs and a casing landed on the landing and on the door threshold. 

[Cambridgecutie]

Well he knew she had the rifle and going crazy, so he must have let her carry on doing what she was doing while he phoned Jeremy AGREED?

What's the defnition of "going crazy"?  FE called NB wanting him to go over immediately when SC had an episode prior to her last admission to a psychiatric hospital but he left it until the following day.

I’m at a bit of a disadvantage at the moment, my computer is knackered and I’m undecided what to do, either go back to Apple or stay with Windows. I might not even replace it till the winter months, All my files are on the computer and I’m just using my iPhone.

I'm currently on a chromebook.  Depends what you want it for. 

[Cambridgecutie]

Some of the 13 things did happen - ringing Julie, ringing Chelmsford Police.

Yes that's true!

Some are just based on what Bamber says - Nevill ringing, Nevill not wanting the police involved.

But for those who think JB guilty it is easy to rubbish his claims and certain events and vice-versa for his 'supporters' based on perceptions and subjectivity. 

Only the soc evidence is rooted in science and objective but many are either unable or unwilling to grapple with it so just go round with circular arguments.

[Hardy Boy]

What's the defnition of "going crazy"?  FE called NB wanting him to go over immediately when SC had an episode prior to her last admission to a psychiatric hospital but he left it until the following day.

I'm currently on a chromebook.  Depends what you want it for.

This is Neville asking for help at 3.00 am in the morning not FE, and with deadly weapon, and of all the people he’s asking help from is Bamber, I would say they are behaving in a uncontrolled way, so Neville is unable to control her?  So he must have let her carry on going in an uncontrolled way with a deadly weapon in her hands while he makes a phone call?

I have looked at the iPad 13 it links better with my iPhone, especially for mapping routes

[snow66!]

Neville was knocked clean out by the AGA for hours and Hours before he phoned Jeremy according to snowy.  Cutie says Neville let Sheila go on a rampage while he phoned Jeremy to come over, and then walked into a ambush on the stairs, Sheila must have been like a sniper ready and waiting for his advance.,

I will do a revised post on the Aga burns later, HB!

[Hardy Boy]

I will do a revised post on the Aga burns later, HB!

Thanks Snow.  I think if you can get around  that  Neville was knocked out for hours and hours, it would help?  Anyway it’s good that your trying 

[snow66!]

Thanks Snow.  I think if you can get around  that  Neville was knocked out for hours and hours, it would help?  Anyway it’s good that your trying 

I will simply go through all of the possibilities, accepting that the AGA did indeed make the marks mind you!
If you cant entertain the possibility at all that the AGA may have made the marks, then it wont be worth reading my post, HB!

[snow66!]

One has to ask, if JB is guilty then why did he leave the kitchen phone off the hook and then tell the police that the line went dead?
Another strange bit of planning!!