Why no Julie 10pm call mention in JBs first WS?

[ILB]

Doubtful. Maybe some suspision.

When Julie started telling her on the 27th, she would have believed her.

Well SB says that Julie got off the phone to Jeremy with a " horrified look on her face" and said " we may be hearing from Jeremy later "

Hours later Jeremy's mum dad sister and nephews are found dead.

[Adam]

Well SB says that Julie got off the phone to Jeremy with a " horrified look on her face" and said " we may be hearing from Jeremy later "

Hours later Jeremy's mum dad sister and nephews are found dead.

That is a good point.

As said, maybe some suspision.

[ILB]

309.


"In my original statement I stated that this call was at 2 a.m. To be more precise I can add that when I awoke I remember looking at my digital radio/alarm clock at the foot of my bed and reading the hour figure as "2". I do not remember noting the minute reading

How can you look at a clock, a digital one and only see one digit?

So she is saying she looked at a clock but didn't see the colon or last two digits?

[ILB]

That is a good point.

As said, maybe some suspision.

Doesn't take a Poirot.

Do you believe that Julie would have told SB about Jeremy's family rantings in idle girlie chit chat prior to the massacre?

[Adam]

How can you look at a clock, a digital one and only see one digit?

So she is saying she looked at a clock but didn't see the colon or last two digits?

Have to go by the witnesses who testified. But appreciate you won't.

[ILB]

Have to go by the witnesses who testified. But appreciate you won't.

Have you got a source of JW having an eyesight problem?

[ILB]

SB said it happened.

SB according to herself was in close proximity to JM while she was on the phone to JB at the 10pm call .looking at thev "horror on Julie's face " after the 10pm call.

Surprised she didn't pick up and hear the dialog, if you stand in close proximity to someone on the phone you can certainly hear and here is an individual on the other end apparently planning to massacre his family in a few hours, he must have been angry and pumped.

[snow66!]

SB according to herself was in close proximity to JM while she was on the phone to JB at the 10pm call .looking at thev "horror on Julie's face " after the 10pm call.

Surprised she didn't pick up and hear the dialog, if you stand in close proximity to someone on the phone you can certainly hear and here is an individual on the other end apparently planning to massacre his family in a few hours, he must have been angry and pumped.

Yes, this is the kind of common sense issues that people ignore, ILB.
Bamber apparently trying to plan a massacre over the phone with Julie while a household of students listen in!
Good grief!

[ILB]

Yes, this is the kind of common sense issues that people ignore, ILB.
Bamber apparently trying to plan a massacre over the phone with Julie while a household of students listen in!
Good grief!

It is heads together cooked statements snow, only sensible conclusion you can arrive at mate.

[snow66!]

It is heads together cooked statements snow, only sensible conclusion you can arrive at mate.

Definately, ILB.

[Adam]

Yes, this is the kind of common sense issues that people ignore, ILB.
Bamber apparently trying to plan a massacre over the phone with Julie while a household of students listen in!
Good grief!

He had already spent several months planning it and done his reconnaissance at WHF. The rifle & Sheila were ready.

He was telling Julie -

'I've been thinking about it all day'.

'Tonights the night'.

'It's now or never'.

'You may hear from me later'.

[Hardy Boy]

SB according to herself was in close proximity to JM while she was on the phone to JB at the 10pm call .looking at thev "horror on Julie's face " after the 10pm call.

Surprised she didn't pick up and hear the dialog, if you stand in close proximity to someone on the phone you can certainly hear and here is an individual on the other end apparently planning to massacre his family in a few hours, he must have been angry and pumped.

I don’t think there was any planning during this conversation, the conversation was about days events.  The planning had been done weeks before, Bamber was supposed to have said, “I’ve been thinking on the tractor and the crime had to be tonight” it had been discussed many times between them what he intended to do, so Julie was aware what he meant, “tonight is the night or never”  so not a lot of dialogue or planning to massacre in that phone call in my opinion.  They were both in on it, Bamber trusted Julie with the caravan robbery and his drug dealings, Julie trusted Bamber with her cheque book fraud and her part in the drug dealings, this was the next step for them both.

[Hardy Boy]

Well SB says that Julie got off the phone to Jeremy with a " horrified look on her face" and said " we may be hearing from Jeremy later "

Hours later Jeremy's mum dad sister and nephews are found dead.

So she didn’t hear any conversation at all then?  Looking at it objectively,  She could quite easily have said “she heard Bamber say tonight’s the night”  if it was heads together cooked up statements?

[Hardy Boy]

Yes, this is the kind of common sense issues that people ignore, ILB.
Bamber apparently trying to plan a massacre over the phone with Julie while a household of students listen in!
Good grief!

Common sense and opinions are not the same, I base my opinions on Facts!  Don’t preach to other that your obviously lacking.

[snow66!]

Common sense and opinions are not the same, I base my opinions on Facts!  Don’t preach to other that your obviously lacking.

Well I dont know if it is a 'fact' or not that Julie was aware of JBs intentions to kill his family or not HB.
If JB is guilty, then its possible, but obviously from an innocent point of view this cannot be correct.