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Re: Why no Julie 10pm call mention in JBs first WS?
« Reply #150 on: April 12, 2025, 05:36:PM »
She gave the exact time of 2AM, now your debating whether her clock was analog or digital.

You just have to accept it.

She testified it waa 2.00am - 2.59am.

Refused to retract during cross examination.
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Re: Why no Julie 10pm call mention in JBs first WS?
« Reply #151 on: April 12, 2025, 05:37:PM »
Knackered clocks.

Boozing

Smoking weed.

Fraud

Who needs a more reliable witness.

Do you believe all witnesses that have a negative impact on the 'Campaign for Freedom' are wrong?
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Re: Why no Julie 10pm call mention in JBs first WS?
« Reply #152 on: April 12, 2025, 05:44:PM »
Do you believe all witnesses that have a negative impact on the 'Campaign for Freedom' are wrong?

They can't get a time right between them and have gave various accounts. A layperson would be only rightly suspicious and skeptical.

Jez can't even get the time right for when Nevill supposably called him " about 3.10am"

The CT now claim he called West at 3.36, still sticking to the " nevill called cops " stance at 3.26
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Re: Why no Julie 10pm call mention in JBs first WS?
« Reply #153 on: April 12, 2025, 05:45:PM »
As said surprised the CT have not done a podcast on her.

Give it time, they most likely one day will.
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Re: Why no Julie 10pm call mention in JBs first WS?
« Reply #154 on: April 12, 2025, 05:49:PM »
They can't get a time right between them and have gave various accounts. A layperson would be only rightly suspicious and skeptical.

Jez can't even get the time right for when Nevill supposably called him " about 3.10am"

The CT now claim he called West at 3.36, still sticking to the " nevill called cops " stance at 3.26

Do you believe all witnesses that have a negative impact on the 'Campaign for Freedom' are wrong?
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Re: Why no Julie 10pm call mention in JBs first WS?
« Reply #155 on: April 12, 2025, 05:55:PM »
Do you believe all witnesses that have a negative impact on the 'Campaign for Freedom' are wrong?

Not for me to decide.
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Re: Why no Julie 10pm call mention in JBs first WS?
« Reply #156 on: April 12, 2025, 05:57:PM »
Not for me to decide.

What witnesses that have a negative impact on the 'Campaign for Freedom' do you agree with?
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Re: Why no Julie 10pm call mention in JBs first WS?
« Reply #157 on: April 12, 2025, 05:58:PM »
What witnesses that have a negative impact on the 'Campaign for Freedom' do you agree with?

Well you need to scale it down, scientific evidence and Julie secured the conviction.
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Re: Why no Julie 10pm call mention in JBs first WS?
« Reply #158 on: April 12, 2025, 06:03:PM »
Well you need to scale it down, scientific evidence and Julie secured the conviction.

Do you think SB's boyfriend lied when testifying?
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Re: Why no Julie 10pm call mention in JBs first WS?
« Reply #159 on: April 12, 2025, 06:08:PM »
Do you think SB's boyfriend lied when testifying?

He said she sometimes kept her clock fast
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Re: Why no Julie 10pm call mention in JBs first WS?
« Reply #160 on: April 12, 2025, 06:11:PM »
Do you believe SB believed Bamber gulity as soon as she heard the news of the massacre?
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Re: Why no Julie 10pm call mention in JBs first WS?
« Reply #161 on: April 12, 2025, 06:16:PM »
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In her evidence to the jury Susan Battersby was adamant that the time shown by her clock was 3.12 a.m. and that she had kept her clock approximately 10 minutes fast.

The prosecution supported her evidence about keeping the clock fast by calling evidence from her boyfriend and also by evidence from a police officer who had been to check the timing on her clock at a later date without forewarning her.

In cross-examination the fact that she had originally said that the time was 3.15 a.m. was put to her. She explained that she had been quite nervous when she made her first statement and had not then appreciated the importance of giving the time exactly.

Later she had thought about it and she could picture in her mind the time as being 3.12 a.m. and she remained certain that that was the time shown on the clock.

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Adamant.

Certain.

Ad hoc police check.

Boyfriend testimony.

Not sure what else she can do.
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Re: Why no Julie 10pm call mention in JBs first WS?
« Reply #162 on: April 12, 2025, 06:21:PM »
Do you believe SB believed Bamber gulity as soon as she heard the news of the massacre?

Doubtful. Maybe some suspision.

When Julie started telling her on the 27th, she would have believed her.
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Re: Why no Julie 10pm call mention in JBs first WS?
« Reply #163 on: April 12, 2025, 06:31:PM »
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In her evidence to the jury Susan Battersby was adamant that the time shown by her clock was 3.12 a.m. and that she had kept her clock approximately 10 minutes fast.

The prosecution supported her evidence about keeping the clock fast by calling evidence from her boyfriend and also by evidence from a police officer who had been to check the timing on her clock at a later date without forewarning her.

In cross-examination the fact that she had originally said that the time was 3.15 a.m. was put to her. She explained that she had been quite nervous when she made her first statement and had not then appreciated the importance of giving the time exactly.

Later she had thought about it and she could picture in her mind the time as being 3.12 a.m. and she remained certain that that was the time shown on the clock.

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Adamant.

Certain.

Ad hoc police check.

Boyfriend testimony.

Not sure what else she can do.

She said she sometimes did it

Whether she did on the night of August 6th its not proven conclusively.

A ad hoc " check"by a copper down the line means nothing.

She told Julie she " was adamant it was 3.12am"

Nervous?

Nervous of what?


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Re: Why no Julie 10pm call mention in JBs first WS?
« Reply #164 on: April 12, 2025, 06:33:PM »
Doubtful. Maybe some suspision.

When Julie started telling her on the 27th, she would have believed her.

Battersby and Mugford were close.

I am surprised Mugford never mentioned what Bamber supposably was saying ( she thought he wasn't being serious ) in the months preceeding 7.8.85

Just in general girl chit chat.
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