Why no Julie 10pm call mention in JBs first WS?

[ILB]

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[Cambridgecutie]

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He doesn't mention using the toilet but I expect he did. 

[snow66!]

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If innocent, while giving his first statement JB would have been in severe shock and disbeliaf, ILB!
Its a wonder he even remembered his own name let alone every detail of the previous day.
He would have been just going through the motions in the days after the shooting, hence having breakfast with Stan!
Probably doesn't even remember having that sandwich, poor man!
Pity Stan wasn't a psychologist rather than a suspicious copper. Stan was hardly a liason officer or councellor either was he?

[Adam]

Don't think it means much him not mentioning it.

He has spent 40 years refusing to say what they spoke about. So have to go by Julie's detailed account.

[ILB]

Don't think it means much him not mentioning it.

He has spent 40 years refusing to say what they spoke about. So have to go by Julie's detailed account.

But Julie mentions it from her 8.8.85 WS.

If you believe Bamber got her to say things in her WS to match what he said, I'd doubt he'd sanction this.

Bamber lists other mundane stuff such as as baths and programmes he watched, a 10pm call to Julie is a detail I would expect him to mention.

Especially when Julie was supporting him.

It either never happened or Bamber was spooked by it

[ILB]

He does mention the 3.26am ( 3am ) whatever to Julie, which has been poured scorn upon from many a guilter view.

The 10pm call I don't understand why he didn't freely omit, especially at the material time on 8.8.85. JM was on side.

[ILB]

If innocent, while giving his first statement JB would have been in severe shock and disbeliaf, ILB!
Its a wonder he even remembered his own name let alone every detail of the previous day.
He would have been just going through the motions in the days after the shooting, hence having breakfast with Stan!
Probably doesn't even remember having that sandwich, poor man!
Pity Stan wasn't a psychologist rather than a suspicious copper. Stan was hardly a liason officer or councellor either was he?

But he remembers every mundane detail of the previous hours.

Such as bedtime, programmes he watched.

I'd expect him to mention a 10pm call to Julie.

[ILB]

Don't think it means much him not mentioning it.

He has spent 40 years refusing to say what they spoke about. So have to go by Julie's detailed account.

In fairness he did offer an explanation a month on when getting interviewed, probably something soppy lovey dovey and boyfriend gf chat.

8.8.85 though it must have been fresh in memory.

[Adam]

He does mention the 3.26am ( 3am ) whatever to Julie, which has been poured scorn upon from many a guilter view.

The 10pm call I don't understand why he didn't freely omit, especially at the material time on 8.8.85. JM was on side.

He has freely admitted to it. Never denying it but refusing to say why he rang her and what they spoke about.

[ILB]

He has freely admitted to it. Never denying it but refusing to say why he rang her and what they spoke about.

But he didn't freely omit it 8.8.85 when it was hours prior.

I can understand a lack of memory in his September interviews, a lot had gone on

[Adam]

In fairness he did offer an explanation a month on when getting interviewed, probably something soppy lovey dovey and boyfriend gf chat.

8.8.85 though it must have been fresh in memory.

Have to go by Julie's more detailed account.

[ILB]

Have to go by Julie's more detailed account.

Why do you think he failed to mention it?

Must have been fresh in his memory.

[Adam]

Why do you think he failed to mention it?

Must have been fresh in his memory.

No idea.

His WS was setting the scene -"rifle left out, him watching TV then going to bed.

Ringing Julie is not part of that.

[ILB]

No idea.

His WS was setting the scene -"rifle left out, him watching TV then going to bed.

Ringing Julie is not part of that.

Cos it never happened?

He never freely admitted the call, he surmised it may have happened.

Only joking.

[snow66!]

But he remembers every mundane detail of the previous hours.

Such as bedtime, programmes he watched.

I'd expect him to mention a 10pm call to Julie.

I'll take a look at his statement, ILB.