Putting the AM to bed.

[Rob_]

It 'reeks of guilt'.

Obviously not as it was not mentioned at trail.

[Adam]

Obviously not as it was not mentioned at trail.

The prosecution did say he rang GH from WHF.

Wonder if they said Bamber rang his AM or answered his own call.

Or suggested both.

As usual, options.

[Rob_]

The prosecution did say he rang GH from WHF.

Wonder if they said Bamber rang his AM or answered his own call.

Or suggested both.

As usual, options.

I cannot find out for sure how long a phone on the old Strowger exchange would ring for?

There were quite a lot of alarms built into the system.

But for sure there is a difference between "off hook" and "busy" and latter that night the operator said the line was busy.

[Cambridgecutie]

The prosecution did say he rang GH from WHF.

Wonder if they said Bamber rang his AM or answered his own call.

Or suggested both.

As usual, options.

Source please?

[Cambridgecutie]

I get your background cutie, why would people on Bambers behalf say he had an AM if he denied ownership of one?

It's obvious he had one.

Who are the people acting on Bamber's behalf?  How reliable are they?  How reliable is JB?  We are talking nearly 40 years after the event.  I have to offset this against AE, JM and prosecution not mentioning an AM when they would be chomping at the bit if he had one.

[Cambridgecutie]

His own admission.

The AM is not incriminating.

JB is not a reliable witness.

The AM is incriminating.  The jury would need to consider it being switched off or JB getting to it before it kicked in.  Neither were put to the jury as there was no evidence JB had an AM pre murders.

[Adam]

Source please?

COA:

149. The appellant returned the moderator to the gun cupboard and before leaving the address called his home at Goldhanger, leaving the receiver off the hook, thus lending support to the alibi he would later rely upon. He then left the premises, one available route being to climb out of the kitchen window, banging it from the outside to drop the catch back into position and then cycled home

[Cambridgecutie]

COA:

149. The appellant returned the moderator to the gun cupboard and before leaving the address called his home at Goldhanger, leaving the receiver off the hook, thus lending support to the alibi he would later rely upon. He then left the premises, one available route being to climb out of the kitchen window, banging it from the outside to drop the catch back into position and then cycled home

 

I assume it eminates from JB's under caution interviews where he states he thought calls could be traced.  Prosecution covering itself not knowing the answer. 

[ILB]

JB is not a reliable witness.

The AM is incriminating.  The jury would need to consider it being switched off or JB getting to it before it kicked in.  Neither were put to the jury as there was no evidence JB had an AM pre murders.

It's an electronic device found in millions of homes across the UK and beyond.

If JB is telling the truth he relieved a call from Nevill. The only thing we can look at is that he was awoken by a phonecall.  JB has quantified his usual ritual was to switch his AM off when he was in his house. His reasoning being he had no need to have it switched on when he was in as he was in to take phone calls

From my own experiences of having been awoke in the middle of the night and having a AM. I don't see it being as incriminating. As I said I used to share a landline with a similarity to a local taxi company which many people used to get mixed up with.

[ILB]

Bamber said he answered the phone. Eventually.

Eventually?

Are you saying he laid in bed and let it ring before deciding to get out of bed?

[ILB]

It 'reeks of guilt'.

Granted, if he said he turned it off solely on 6.8.85 questions would arise due to the circumstances.

He is saying it's what he always did.

[Adam]

I assume it eminates from JB's under caution interviews where he states he thought calls could be traced.  Prosecution covering itself not knowing the answer.

Do you think the prosecution narrative at trial was he phoned his AM. Or answered his own call?

[Adam]

Granted, if he said he turned it off solely on 6.8.85 questions would arise due to the circumstances.

He is saying it's what he always did.

I guessed he would.

AM's, 1571 & Voicemail were/are 24/7 accessories.

[Adam]

JB is not a reliable witness.

The AM is incriminating.  The jury would need to consider it being switched off or JB getting to it before it kicked in.  Neither were put to the jury as there was no evidence JB had an AM pre murders.

Who is a reliable witness for you?

[Adam]

I cannot find out for sure how long a phone on the old Strowger exchange would ring for?

There were quite a lot of alarms built into the system.

But for sure there is a difference between "off hook" and "busy" and latter that night the operator said the line was busy.

I have provided a source that the phone would ring continuously if not answered.