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Re: Rosemary Wilkinson WS
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2025, 05:31:PM »
From CAL -

Don Hawkins declared that his former girlfriend ‘didn’t have the manual dexterity to handle a gun. I remember that she had trouble opening a can of beans with the tin opener.

Donald Hawkins, w/s, 8 October 1985.


I wouldn't think many men, if any, want to think of a former girlfriend as capable of murdering her parents and children. 

Sounds like some close-ended questions were put to Don Hawkins for a pre-determined response  ::)  Who was the interviewer?  DS Jones  ::)

Funny how attempts to determine SC's manual dexterity seems to involve beans!?  AE:  SC unable to hit the toast with beans.  DH unable to open a can of beans.  Rather begs the question if she was unable to open the can how did she miss hitting the toast?!  ::)
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Re: Rosemary Wilkinson WS
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2025, 05:36:PM »

Indeed it takes a steady hand. Not necessarily hers, though. Can "no evidence" really be construed as there being none, or merely that none was found?

Well her friends and family seem only too willing to tell all that SC was unable to open a can of beans and/or hit the toast with them so why not tell us that SC was unable to manicure/varnish her nails and that's why x,y,z did it for her?  And why did any person that carried out the task in a professional capacity not come forward?
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Re: Rosemary Wilkinson WS
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2025, 05:45:PM »
Haloperiodal is a very powerful drug with multiple huge side effects.

Poor Sheila would have made 'Sleepy Joe' look like Bruce Lee.

RW's statement refers to sleepiness and muscle stiffness as potential side effects.  SC was concerned with sleepiness only.
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Re: Rosemary Wilkinson WS
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2025, 05:56:PM »
Well her friends and family seem only too willing to tell all that SC was unable to open a can of beans and/or hit the toast with them so why not tell us that SC was unable to manicure/varnish her nails and that's why x,y,z did it for her?  And why did any person that carried out the task in a professional capacity not come forward?


Well, any answer I give -and there are probably numerous- can only be supposition as I can't speak for others. They're certainly likely to be subjective. The only time my nails stay untarnished is when they're gelled!

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Re: Rosemary Wilkinson WS
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2025, 06:00:PM »
RW's statement refers to sleepiness and muscle stiffness as potential side effects.  SC was concerned with sleepiness only.
An observation by Barbara Wilson from CAL -

'Her eyes would look right past you. I only saw her once more after that. I was indoors, watching her cross the yard. The geese were about – perishing things, they used to cackle and chase people. But on this particular occasion I saw Sheila walking across the yard, her body and legs very stiff, staring straight ahead. She moved through the geese as if they weren’t there.'

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Re: Rosemary Wilkinson WS
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2025, 06:07:PM »
Sheila's tragic condition shows two important things -

She couldn't walk, talk or do anything remotely physical.

She was a lamb to the slaughter for Jeremy.
'Only I know what really happened that night'.

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Re: Rosemary Wilkinson WS
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2025, 07:30:PM »
An observation by Barbara Wilson from CAL -

'Her eyes would look right past you. I only saw her once more after that. I was indoors, watching her cross the yard. The geese were about – perishing things, they used to cackle and chase people. But on this particular occasion I saw Sheila walking across the yard, her body and legs very stiff, staring straight ahead. She moved through the geese as if they weren’t there.'


But she went to the GP surgery on 11th July 1985 regarding side effects from her meds.  This amounted to sleepiness.  If she had any other side effects why did she not discuss?
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Re: Rosemary Wilkinson WS
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2025, 07:31:PM »
Sheila's tragic condition shows two important things -

She couldn't walk, talk or do anything remotely physical.

She was a lamb to the slaughter for Jeremy.

None of which she discussed with her GP's surgery.  But she did discuss sleepiness. 
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

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Re: Rosemary Wilkinson WS
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2025, 07:47:PM »
None of which she discussed with her GP's surgery.  But she did discuss sleepiness.

Sleepiness would have been a major problem.

200mg would have made her bedbound. She could barely function on 100mg.
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Re: Rosemary Wilkinson WS
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2025, 11:55:PM »
Sleepiness would have been a major problem.

200mg would have made her bedbound. She could barely function on 100mg.
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Re: Rosemary Wilkinson WS
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2025, 09:59:AM »
Ha ha!
Your a character, Adam!

Haldo can be prescribed at up to 100mg per day, Sheila was on a light dose. Adam is trying hard to protect someone but it's not working  ;)

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Re: Rosemary Wilkinson WS
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2025, 10:47:AM »
Haldo can be prescribed at up to 100mg per day, Sheila was on a light dose. Adam is trying hard to protect someone but it's not working  ;)


The key word being "can", doesn't mean always is! There was a wonderful docu shown about over medicated patients at the Maudsley? They were exhibiting all the symptoms claimed of Sheila. They were reduced to zombie status.

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Re: Rosemary Wilkinson WS
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2025, 11:58:AM »

The key word being "can", doesn't mean always is! There was a wonderful docu shown about over medicated patients at the Maudsley? They were exhibiting all the symptoms claimed of Sheila. They were reduced to zombie status.
Was it the third programme in this series, Jane? -

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bedlam_(2013_TV_series)

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Re: Rosemary Wilkinson WS
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2025, 01:06:PM »

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Re: Rosemary Wilkinson WS
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2025, 01:50:PM »
Haldo can be prescribed at up to 100mg per day, Sheila was on a light dose. Adam is trying hard to protect someone but it's not working  ;)
My lord, he's certainly got stamina anyway Rob!
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