Rosemary Wilkinson WS

[Curiosity]

That's the one!

Good, I think this is the right documentary.  I haven't watched it before, or the series, but they're still available on YouTube if anyone's interested.

Full series here -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD51rgCkRZI&ab_channel=TrueLives

and the third programme in the series starts here -

https://youtu.be/bD51rgCkRZI?si=OCnGatf5xYviXWH2&t=5616

[Curiosity]

My lord, he's certainly got stamina anyway Rob!
The amount of posting from Adam is unreal!
Dont know why he's so fixated with Bamber!

It's the unflagging horse in him that does it -

[snow66!]

It's the unflagging horse in him that does it -

Ha ha!
Seems like, Curiosity!
Seems like!

[Adam]

The key word being "can", doesn't mean always is! There was a wonderful docu shown about over medicated patients at the Maudsley? They were exhibiting all the symptoms claimed of Sheila. They were reduced to zombie status.

Used to work at Kings College Dental Hospital. Thought the Maudsley was part of it & started going to lunch there.

Thankfully only staff were in the restaraunt. Suspect the patients were bedbound.

[ILB]

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,1206.msg37426.html#msg37426

This is regarding Sheila's reduction of Haldoperiodal.

Sheila was complaining of sleepiness.

Wilkinson also says Haldoperiodal can cause stiffness.

Going by Sheila's final few days, she could walk but had to be constantly monitored by CC, June & Nevill.

Seems shelia was concerned about the sleepiness, which is understandable as she juggling prospective France holidays, dating men, nights out, and cleaning jobs at the time.

[Zoso]

But she went to the GP surgery on 11th July 1985 regarding side effects from her meds.  This amounted to sleepiness.  If she had any other side effects why did she not discuss?

Because sleepiness was 'Sheila's main concern, the observations are from BW

[Cambridgecutie]

Because sleepiness was 'Sheila's main concern, the observations are from BW

I know.  I was responding to Curiosity's post re BW's observations which implied SC was also suffering from muscle stiffness, another known side effect of Haloperidol.  If this was so then why did she not discuss with RW when discussing the sleepiness?

[ILB]

Used to work at Kings College Dental Hospital.

Community service?

[Adam]

There are dozens of serious side effects of Haldoperiodal. Which become worse the longer you use it.

Sadly Sheila suffered from many of these. Both physically and mentally.

Her sleepiness needed to be reduced so she could do essential things such as eat & drink. But even that she found difficult.

[ILB]

Are France holidays and dating men essentials?

Shelia was working as a cleaner, requires a level of dexterity.

And nous as well, the daughter of wealthy parents she was receiving financial support from them anyway. It shows she wanted to retain a degree of financial independence.

[Adam]

Are France holidays and dating men essentials?

Shelia was working as a cleaner, requires a level of dexterity.

And nous as well, the daughter of wealthy parents she was receiving financial support from them anyway. It shows she wanted to retain a degree of financial independence.

Why didn't she go to France?

[Jane]

Are France holidays and dating men essentials?

Shelia was working as a cleaner, requires a level of dexterity.

And nous as well, the daughter of wealthy parents she was receiving financial support from them anyway. It shows she wanted to retain a degree of financial independence.

I believe one of her friends payed her to clean, but only for a short time. Such was Sheila's lack of domesticity, her employment was terminated. It may have been that she'd never been bought up to seek long term employment. Those known to me, who've had similar upbringings, usually do temping from Tuesdays to Thursdays so the weekends are free for socializing.

[ILB]

I have managed to maintain a house and do some work this week despite being suffering a bad bout of sciatica A condition that has effected me for years. For the past 12 days I have averaged under 2 hours sleep a night. I am also 56 years old. With this condition simple things like, driving, taking a bath, showering and standing up straight, even sitting on a toilet which we take for granted are hindered. But we still can maintain a semblance of normality 

Whilst you can not directly compare my circumstances with shelia, evidence exists to show she was leading a perfectly normal life for a woman her age prior to the massacre, that's not play down her difficulties, but it's also not to enhance them, the truth is probably something that lies in the middle.

[ILB]

Why didn't she go to France?

June couldn't get over the channel on her bike to get her food shopping for her. No night vision goggles.

[Adam]

I believe one of her friends payed her to clean, but only for a short time. Such was Sheila's lack of domesticity, her employment was terminated. It may have been that she'd never been bought up to seek long term employment. Those known to me, who've had similar upbringings, usually do temping from Tuesdays to Thursdays so the weekends are free for socializing.

June was doing Sheila's food shopping.

Suspect June was also doing Sheila's cooking. Making food in bulk so Sheila didn't have to do much.