Raid Team Statements:

[Adam]

There is no mention of the Judge saying that.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,9404.msg438059.html#msg438059

It is in Wilkes's book. A chapter on the judges summing up.

It is a big question. How did Sheila do everything between 3.10am - 3.50am.

[Adam]

As CC/Curiosity said, there is no evidence Sheila was alive when the police arrived.

But appreciate the CT have nothing to lose in claiming she was.

[Rob_]

It is in Wilkes's book. A chapter on the judges summing up.

It is a big question. How did Sheila do everything between 3.10am - 3.50am.

How much time do you think it should take?

Twins shot first, Nevil finds Sheila downstairs having already managed to reload she makes a run for it upstairs etc.

She has time to spare.

[BarefootDanC]

Yes.

I would imagine everyone would have been dead by the time the police arrived, where it was Sheila or Jeremy.

Jeremy said Nevill called around 3:10am and sounded like he got cut off. 40 minutes is plenty of time to kill everyone else and herself.

[Cambridgecutie]

How much time do you think it should take?

Twins shot first, Nevil finds Sheila downstairs having already managed to reload she makes a run for it upstairs etc.

She has time to spare.

What evidence exists that the twins were shot first?  The SoC evidence does not support this.

[Rob_]

What evidence exists that the twins were shot first?  The SoC evidence does not support this.

I was just giving an example, however what evidence is there that the twins were not shot first?

[Cambridgecutie]

I was just giving an example, however what evidence is there that the twins were not shot first?

The totality of the SoC evidence by way of blood stains, casings, distance of shots, trajectories and wound tracks.

[Rob_]

The totality of the SoC evidence by way of blood stains, casings, distance of shots, trajectories and wound tracks.

OK but they tell us nothing about when the twins were shot, no one knows.

[Cambridgecutie]

OK but they tell us nothing about when the twins were shot, no one knows.

Not true.  The twins were shot after June and NB.

[Rob_]

Not true.  The twins were shot after June and NB.

Interesting Cc what have I missed that tells us this?

[Cambridgecutie]

Interesting Cc what have I missed that tells us this?

The totality of the soc evidence: blood stains, casings, distance of shots, trajectories, wound tracks.

[snow66!]

It is in Wilkes's book. A chapter on the judges summing up.

It is a big question. How did Sheila do everything between 3.10am - 3.50am.

She may have started shooting hours earlier, Adam!
After Nevill was lying against the Aga!

[Adam]

Interesting Cc what have I missed that tells us this?

Julie said the twins were shot first.

It was such a big house with 3 stair cases, thick doors & walls. He would be confident enough to shoot them first. Once each.

He can test the rifle on them. Silently with the silencer. 

It is a good way to get started. Killing two people with 2 bullets & having 9 bullets left.

Once he has shot the twins, there is no going back & he is pumped up.  He will not hesitate in the main bedroom.

[Adam]

If the twins were not shot first, they slept through a lot.

It was such a big house, with 3 stair cases, thick doors and walls. He would have been confident they would not wake. He was right.

[Adam]

CAL/the police say the twins were shot with bullets 10 & 11.

Possible if he believed Nevill/June were negated sufficiently and not able to leave the bedroom. He could not risk Nevill getting hold of a loaded shot gun.

After Nevill got out of bed, thought he would keep shooting him in the main bedroom with shots 10 & 11. Regardless of how incapacitated he looked.

Adrenaline would see him empty the rifle on Nevill rather than go into the twins room.