Refer or not!

[Cambridgecutie]

I can picture Bamber on the sofa of this morning.

Suited and booted in Hugo Boss...opens his jacket..."Look who's the Boss now"!

[Jane]

I would not want to live in such a place regardless of whether or not I was related to the victims and regardless of the time lapse.  I guess at the end of the day its personal opinion. 

There's now a legal duty on house sellers to disclose any negative history about the property.  Appreciate WHF is tenanted.  If I remember correctly it is owned by a charity?  Is the charity connected to the CoE?

I believe it is on both counts.

[Curiosity]

Suited and booted in Hugo Boss...opens his jacket..."Look who's the Boss now"!

Like father, like son.  Except that dad doesn't have the same expensive tastes -

"Have a gander everybody, I've gone for a Burton's!"

[Rob_]

Those figures didn't equate when I first joined the forum and Ann was almost being accused of moving in within days of the massacre. Now, that could justifiably, had it happened, have been called "shortly". I rather think "most people" would be offended by anyone who was "happy to call such a place 'home'". Do you think the house should have been demolished?

Yes definitely.

[Curiosity]

NO! Definitely not.

[ILB]

You are starstruck after meeting Bamber once 30 years ago.

More than once, same wing for a significant period.

Starstruck?

[ILB]

Like father, like son.  Except that dad doesn't have the same expensive tastes -

"Have a gander everybody, I've gone for a Burton's!"

Yeah spitting image of his old man.

[ILB]

I doubt she will face charges of perverting the course of justice.  Do you know of any witnesses, lay or professional, that have when convictions are quashed?

I don't blame her at all.  I blame DS Jones for weaponising her.

DS Jones is dead and buried.

End of the day she gave evidence.

Wonder if Jez would mount a private prosecution?

[Cambridgecutie]

I believe it is on both counts.

Yes.  Here they are:

https://www.henrysmithcharity.org.uk/about-us/#:~:text=The%20Henry%20Smith%20Charity%20has,%C2%A346.4%20million%20in%202023.

[Cambridgecutie]

Like father, like son.  Except that dad doesn't have the same expensive tastes -

"Have a gander everybody, I've gone for a Burton's!"

Nice one! 

[Cambridgecutie]

DS Jones is dead and buried.

End of the day she gave evidence.

Wonder if Jez would mount a private prosecution?

She was just 21 years of age up against a middle aged experienced police officer. 

I would think Jez's efforts would be better spent pursuing his relatives.  That's assuming of course he ever get the opportunity to do so!

[ILB]

She was just 21 years of age up against a middle aged experienced police officer. 

I would think Jez's efforts would be better spent pursuing his relatives.  That's assuming of course he ever get the opportunity to do so!

In the first world war men volunteered underage.

Not going to break into rhetoric but you get where I am leading to. " the I'm just a young girl/boy so that means what ever I do wrong I should escape punishment doesn't wash with me. I myself when younger did stupid things and paid the price. Take account of your actions.

If JB walks free, Mugford should face charges.

[Cambridgecutie]

In the first world war men volunteered underage.

Not going to break into rhetoric but you get where I am leading to. " the I'm just a young girl/boy so that means what ever I do wrong I should escape punishment doesn't wash with me. I myself when younger did stupid things and paid the price. Take account of your actions.

If JB walks free, Mugford should face charges.

JB was not convicted on JM's testimony.  He was convicted on the blood evidence.  JM had nothing to do with the blood evidence.

[BarefootDanC]

The powers that be will never admit it Rob.

Which is the issue.

The "powers that be" don't have to admit they were wrong. The CCRC are independent of the the police, the CPS and the government, as is the Court of Appeal.

If the 1,000+ page dossier really is fully of lots of "inarguable" grounds like the Campaign Team claim it is, there is no reason for the CCRC not to refer.

The CCRC would look very silly if they lost at a Judicial Review!

[Cambridgecutie]

In the first world war men volunteered underage.

Not going to break into rhetoric but you get where I am leading to. " the I'm just a young girl/boy so that means what ever I do wrong I should escape punishment doesn't wash with me. I myself when younger did stupid things and paid the price. Take account of your actions.

If JB walks free, Mugford should face charges.

Bet there was a lot of propaganda.

You acted on your own free will.

The Milgram experiment was a series of social psychology experiments that demonstrated how people can be forced to obey orders from an authority figure, even if those orders go against their own conscience.