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Offline Cambridgecutie

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Re: Refer or not!
« Reply #30 on: February 10, 2025, 10:51:AM »
That is correct.

I'm always correct!  You should know this by now!

A more interesting story over JB's 40 years of incarceration, which is largely known about, would be, imo, JM's truth.
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« Reply #31 on: February 10, 2025, 11:32:AM »
I'm always correct!  You should know this by now!

A more interesting story over JB's 40 years of incarceration, which is largely known about, would be, imo, JM's truth.

Maybe Julie might invite JB over for Christmas.

All jokes aside what will happen with JM if Jeremy Bamber walks out of jail a free man?

Will she face charges of perverting the course of justice?

Will Jeremy mount a private prosecution?

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« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2025, 11:35:AM »
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« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2025, 11:35:AM »
I don't know exactly when she moved in.  The murders took place nearly 40 years ago.  If she moved in around 2 years afterwards that's around 5% of 40 years, so yes I think most would consider "shortly afterwards" an apt description.  Even if it was yesterday the fact she is happy to call such a place 'home' would I am sure offend most people.


Those figures didn't equate when I first joined the forum and Ann was almost being accused of moving in within days of the massacre. Now, that could justifiably, had it happened, have been called "shortly". I rather think "most people" would be offended by anyone who was "happy to call such a place 'home'". Do you think the house should have been demolished?

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« Reply #34 on: February 10, 2025, 11:36:AM »

Those figures didn't equate when I first joined the forum and Ann was almost being accused of moving in within days of the massacre. Now, that could justifiably, had it happened, have been called "shortly". I rather think "most people" would be offended by anyone who was "happy to call such a place 'home'". Do you think the house should have been demolished?

Seems to have been a drawn out affair in fairness, 1990 four years post trial, a court battle with JB in 1989 And twenty other people applying for tenancy.
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« Reply #35 on: February 10, 2025, 11:48:AM »
Seems to have been a drawn out affair in fairness, 1990 four years post trial, a court battle with JB in 1989 And twenty other people applying for tenancy.


I would be interesting to know if AE applied for the tenancy, or if, after it was decided that other candidates were unsuitable, she was offered it? It appears that she'd been a suitable caretaker during the 5 years it was vacant.

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« Reply #36 on: February 10, 2025, 12:06:PM »

I would be interesting to know if AE applied for the tenancy, or if, after it was decided that other candidates were unsuitable, she was offered it? It appears that she'd been a suitable caretaker during the 5 years it was vacant.

Agree, I'm unsure to be honest.

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« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2025, 12:10:PM »
    Voted no, hope to be wrong
Voted Yes, hope to be wrong 🙈 No I really hope his case gets referred, I think there will always be doubt otherwise Gringo,  I don’t think there is anyone 100% of guilt or innocence, maybe a referral to the COA will let fresh  eyes look at the case

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« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2025, 12:12:PM »
I can picture Bamber on the sofa of this morning.
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« Reply #39 on: February 10, 2025, 12:13:PM »
Voted Yes, hope to be wrong 🙈 No I really hope his case gets referred, I think there will always be doubt otherwise Gringo,  I don’t think there is anyone 100% of guilt or innocence, maybe a referral to the COA will let fresh  eyes look at the case

Long process, a COA hearing could be some years away yet even on event of successful referral.
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« Reply #40 on: February 10, 2025, 12:15:PM »
Long process, a COA hearing could be some years away yet even on event of successful referral.
Yes I know that, although wouldn’t it matter how strong the evidence is? 

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« Reply #41 on: February 10, 2025, 12:25:PM »
Voted Yes, hope to be wrong 🙈 No I really hope his case gets referred, I think there will always be doubt otherwise Gringo,  I don’t think there is anyone 100% of guilt or innocence, maybe a referral to the COA will let fresh  eyes look at the case
   I think it should be referred HB and hope that it is. I will still hope for the best.

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« Reply #42 on: February 10, 2025, 03:20:PM »
I can picture Bamber on the sofa of this morning.

You are starstruck after meeting Bamber once 30 years ago.
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« Reply #43 on: February 10, 2025, 04:52:PM »
Maybe Julie might invite JB over for Christmas.

All jokes aside what will happen with JM if Jeremy Bamber walks out of jail a free man?

Will she face charges of perverting the course of justice?

Will Jeremy mount a private prosecution?

I doubt she will face charges of perverting the course of justice.  Do you know of any witnesses, lay or professional, that have when convictions are quashed?

I don't blame her at all.  I blame DS Jones for weaponising her. 



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Re: Refer or not!
« Reply #44 on: February 10, 2025, 05:08:PM »

Those figures didn't equate when I first joined the forum and Ann was almost being accused of moving in within days of the massacre. Now, that could justifiably, had it happened, have been called "shortly". I rather think "most people" would be offended by anyone who was "happy to call such a place 'home'". Do you think the house should have been demolished?

I would not want to live in such a place regardless of whether or not I was related to the victims and regardless of the time lapse.  I guess at the end of the day its personal opinion. 

There's now a legal duty on house sellers to disclose any negative history about the property.  Appreciate WHF is tenanted.  If I remember correctly it is owned by a charity?  Is the charity connected to the CoE?
Patrick O'Connor, Barrister, Doughty Street Chambers: "It will have to be a slam dunk.  It will have to be something of a blockbuster piece of evidence to have a chance".

All goals from Lionesses Euro 2025:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DQq5gnwGjs