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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #105 on: October 17, 2024, 08:03:PM »
It is possible Bamber left June & Nevill to shoot the twins, once each. As CAL says.

Believing he had done enough damage to negate June & Nevill with 9 shots.

This would have given Nevill the chance to go downstairs via the main bedroom door.

Nevill was not very fast due to his injuries. So was caught in the kitchen.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #106 on: October 18, 2024, 08:38:AM »
If he had been onto Nevill had nevill exited via the box room there's a strong chance they would have fought in that room before he had even reached the twins room.

Nevill would have had to have been very quick.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #107 on: October 18, 2024, 08:43:AM »
In fairness though there is a chance Bamber didn't chase him straight away. But a slim one.

He may after shooting June exited the bedroom and gone downstairs to negate nevill further once they met in the kitchen. ( main bedroom door )

He would believe Nevill would be heading downstairs to flee or grab a firearm)

However a bit risky, although shot 4 times Nevill showed what a strong person he was. And how resilient he was.

My personal belief as stated through the bedroom main door and down the staircase, Bamber beating him with the rifle on the main stairs causing further weakness.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #108 on: October 18, 2024, 08:47:AM »
If Nevill lurched out of bed, I would have fired the final 2 shots into him. Instead of going into the twins room.

However Bamber would have had a fixed plan beforehand. Which he would have kept to. He may have thought Nevill was sufficiently negated.

Shooting 4 people before going downstairs to re load is a decent tactic.
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« Reply #109 on: October 18, 2024, 08:48:AM »
Bamber can't afford to be sloppy. He has to be on him straight away.

If Nevill had gotten out of the property. That's a potential recipe for calamity and Bamber getting discovered.

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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #110 on: October 18, 2024, 08:50:AM »
If Nevill lurched out of bed, I would have fired the final 2 shots into him. Instead of going into the twins room.

However Bamber would have had a fixed plan beforehand. Which he would have kept to. He may have thought Nevill was sufficiently negated.

Shooting 4 people before going downstairs to re load is a decent tactic.

The fixed plan would have been to end Nevill in his bedroom. He did not expect a six foot 4 16 stone guy to get to his feet and get downstairs after 4 gunshots. It's obvious something went wrong. After that it's just a case of ending Nevill by any means nessecary. Quickly and effectively
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #111 on: October 18, 2024, 08:53:AM »
The options of Nevill's exit are -

Out of the main bedroom door. Bamber still in the room.

Out of the main bedroom door. Bamber not in the room. 

Out of the box room door. Bamber still in the room.

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CAL believes in the second one. Although has Nevill following Bamber downstairs.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #112 on: October 18, 2024, 08:55:AM »
I don't think Bamber not being in the room is feasible personally.

I am leaning toward Bamber being brushed aside by Nevill due to the latters strength.

Via the maindoor.

Also had Bamber turned his attention to June it gives Nevill a chance to go through the main door had Bamber being stood elsewhere in the bedroom.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #113 on: October 18, 2024, 08:57:AM »
The boxroom twins room is possible of course. Can't rule it out. But it's my belief he would have caught him had he followed him straight away.

He didn't have a generous head start by any stretch of the imagination. They were in the same room and Nevill had been shot four times.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #114 on: October 18, 2024, 08:57:AM »
Nevill going downstairs while Bamber shoots the twins (once each) would be caught in the kitchen.

It would not take long to shoot the twins.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #115 on: October 18, 2024, 09:00:AM »
The boxroom twins room is possible of course. Can't rule it out. But it's my belief he would have caught him had he followed him straight away.

He didn't have a generous head start by any stretch of the imagination. They were in the same room and Nevill had been shot four times.

Do you believe Nevill would follow Bamber downstairs?

That is CAL's scenario.

For me, not impossible but unlikely.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #116 on: October 18, 2024, 09:00:AM »
Nevill going downstairs while Bamber shoots the twins (once each) would be caught in the kitchen.

It would not take long to shoot the twins.

Nevill may be able to get outside though. Depends how quick Nevill was.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #117 on: October 18, 2024, 09:04:AM »
Nevill going to exit via the main bedroom door while Bamber was still in the room, risked receiving more shots or being physically attacked.

However in the heat of the moment, he may have gone for it. If he did, he was successful.
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #118 on: October 18, 2024, 09:05:AM »
Do you believe Nevill would follow Bamber downstairs?

That is CAL's scenario.

For me, not impossible but unlikely.

No I don't believe he would follow him.

He had been shot four times.

Only person who did the following would be Bamber, going after Nevill
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Re: CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.
« Reply #119 on: October 18, 2024, 09:08:AM »
Nevill going to exit via the main bedroom door while Bamber was still in the room, risked receiving more shots or being physically attacked.

However in the heat of the moment, he may have gone for it. If he did, he was successful.

It's a long rifle, it's a bedroom area space.

They may have even tussled for the rifle in the bedroom had Nevill grabbed it. Nevill then managing to throw Bamber out of the way.

Agree, had the area been wider range he may have shot at him further.
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