CAL - Twins being shot once each with shots 10 & 11.

[Steve_uk]

Of course it's worthy of a thread of it's own. It is a section of CAL's scenario.

Just because you have nothing worthwhile to create, doesn't mean no one else has.

Stop being  prat.

I resurrected this thread for you after you made 14 posts with no replies.

I'll be glad when the rutting season is over.

[snow66!]

Will look at the pros & cons of Bamber doing things things this way. Which is CAL's scenario.

If this happened,why did Bamber go back and shoot the twins again Adam?

[Steve_uk]

If this happened,why did Bamber go back and shoot the twins again Adam?

Several possibilities. Making sure they were dead, wanting it to look as if his sister had run amok, just plain enjoyment of annihilating children he regarded as spoiled brats.

[Rob_]

Several possibilities. Making sure they were dead, wanting it to look as if his sister had run amok, just plain enjoyment of annihilating children he regarded as spoiled brats.

Not very convincing Steve I am afraid, the pattern of the shots is highly suggestive of the shots being all done at once.

Bamber was trying to make it look like murder / suicide he was not interested in vengeance.

Being able to spend his inheritance is all he was interested in, why would he inflict all those wounds / injuries to Nevil? He wouldn't but this is common in attacks by people with PS perhaps Bamber did his homework a bit more staging? 

[Steve_uk]

Not very convincing Steve I am afraid, the pattern of the shots is highly suggestive of the shots being all done at once.

Bamber was trying to make it look like murder / suicide he was not interested in vengeance.

Being able to spend his inheritance is all he was interested in, why would he inflict all those wounds / injuries to Nevil? He wouldn't but this is common in attacks by people with PS perhaps Bamber did his homework a bit more staging?

I'm not sure the second part is true. He was confused from an early age about his adoption status, a city boy transplanted into a rural location, then abandoned as he saw it by his caregivers and placed in another rural location with strangers, namely Gresham's, then dispossessed of the probable love of his life Suzette, under threat of disinheritance.

I think vengeance played a part.

[snow66!]

Several possibilities. Making sure they were dead, wanting it to look as if his sister had run amok, just plain enjoyment of annihilating children he regarded as spoiled brats.

The way I see it Steve,is that Sheila shot June first and had a struggle to do so, hence the twins got head shots only!
Sheila didn't want the boys to suffer by giving them any body shots like she did with June that would cause them to waken up and scream, wondering why their mummy was hurting them.
People say Sheila would not have hurt her kids,but once she had killed June Sheila had no choice, rather than be locked up for killing June and seperated from the boys she decided to kill them as well as herself, then at least they would all go to heaven together.
So, Sheila re-loaded and headed to the boys room, she shot Daniel five times in the back of the head as he slept, unfortunately Nicholas woke up and turned on to his back, facing his mother!
Sheila either reassured him that everything was allright and waited till he shut his eyes again or shot him right away three times.
At some stage she made contact with Nicholas' cheek and cut it! Maybe by touching his face with her hand and cutting it with her finger nail.
I think thats roughly how the boys died Steve!

[Steve_uk]

The way I see it Steve,is that Sheila shot June first and had a struggle to do so, hence the twins got head shots only!
Sheila didn't want the boys to suffer by giving them any body shots like she did with June that would cause them to waken up and scream, wondering why their mummy was hurting them.
People say Sheila would not have hurt her kids,but once she had killed June Sheila had no choice, rather than be locked up for killing June and seperated from the boys she decided to kill them as well as herself, then at least they would all go to heaven together.
So, Sheila re-loaded and headed to the boys room, she shot Daniel five times in the back of the head as he slept, unfortunately Nicholas woke up and turned on to his back, facing his mother!
Sheila either reassured him that everything was allright and waited till he shut his eyes again or shot him right away three times.
At some stage she made contact with Nicholas' cheek and cut it! Maybe by touching his face with her hand and cutting it with her finger nail.
I think thats roughly how the boys died Steve!

Was that in the autopsy? How terrible!

[snow66!]

Was that in the autopsy? How terrible!

Yes, an inch and half scar Steve!
Dont think the end of the rifle could have made it! Could it?

[Hardy Boy]

Yes, an inch and half scar Steve!
Dont think the end of the rifle could have made it! Could it?

Bless, so he picked up a cut in his earlier years and it's healed and left him a scar. 

A scar is a mark on the skin after a wound or injury has healed.

[Jane]

Yes, an inch and half scar Steve!
Dont think the end of the rifle could have made it! Could it?

Ooh!! A scar was it, Snow? I have several of those. Legacies of old wounds once the scabs had come off. Are you seriously asking us to believe that, within a time-frame of a few hours, one of Sheila's nails made  contact with her little boy's skin, cause it to break/tear/split and bleed, form a scab which came off and left a scar?

[Hardy Boy]

Ooh!! A scar was it, Snow? I have several of those. Legacies of old wounds once the scabs had come off. Are you seriously asking us to believe that, within a time-frame of a few hours, one of Sheila's nails made  contact with her little boy's skin, cause it to break/tear/split and bleed, form a scab which came off and left a scar?

Cutie and Snow are fully paid up members of the BS, BlameSociety

[Jane]

Cutie and Snow are fully paid up members of the BS, BlameSociety

Mmm? Well I guess if enough BS is thrown, there'll always be someone willing to get their hands dirty.

[Cambridgecutie]

Will look at the pros & cons of Bamber doing things things this way. Which is CAL's scenario.

Do you believe June sustained 7 gunshot wounds with one of those entry/exit wounds causing the graze?  Or do you believe June sustained 8 gunshot wounds with one of those entry/exit wounds causing the graze?  The latter option would account for the 12 casings in the main bedroom and landing (excluding the 2 casings pertaining to SC). 

[Cambridgecutie]

Do you believe June sustained 7 gunshot wounds with one of those entry/exit wounds causing the graze?  Or do you believe June sustained 8 gunshot wounds with one of those entry/exit wounds causing the graze?  The latter option would account for the 12 casings in the main bedroom and landing (excluding the 2 casings pertaining to SC).

June sustained 3 exit wounds and 1 grazing wound which may have been independent of other entry wounds or a ricochet from an entry/exit wound.  NB sustained 1 grazing wound upstairs.  Fragments of bullet were observed on the radiograph but not in the body cavity.  4 spent bullets were found in the main bedroom.  Do you think the fourth spent bullet relates to June or NB?

[snow66!]

Bless, so he picked up a cut in his earlier years and it's healed and left him a scar. 

A scar is a mark on the skin after a wound or injury has healed.

Thanks HB, I did wonder if it was a wound made at an earlier time!