Police Fitting Up Suspects

[ILB]

Adam has nevill unable to put a 10 minute struggle but has nevill doing a Usain bolt through the box room and twins room. Easily outpacing Jeremy Bamber.

But says Nevill leaves the twins.

[Adam]

Don't believe it was a simple as made out.

Six foot 4 guy heavily built

Overturned crockery, kitchen light smashes. Kitchen showing signs of a struggle.

Big guy getting downstairs and fighting till the death

Ten minutes.

Seems Sheila had stamina as well as strength.

[Adam]

Adam has nevill unable to put a 10 minute struggle but has nevill doing a Usain bolt through the box room and twins room. Easily outpacing Jeremy Bamber.

But says Nevill leaves the twins.

Leaves the twins? He wasn't with them in the first place.

He's not going to stop and check on the twins when there is a man ten yards behind him chasing him with a gun which had just shot him 4 times.

But if you think he would, feel free.

Nevill being repeatedly hit with a blunt instrument for 10 minutes by a strong man would have hundreds of injuries, let alone 40+.
 
I agree with Snow. For a change.

[Rob_]

I think you'll find that murders/violent crimes committed by schizophrenics are done when they're unmedicated. Such is fairly predictable. Sheila was not of their number.

Sheila was effectively unmedicated, her dosage had just recently been halved and she was due another. Also she was messing with drugs which greatly increases the chances of violence.

I spoke to the person I know with PS and asked him about the effects of halving the dosage his comment although not a doctor was "That would be reckless"

[Zoso]

Sheila was effectively unmedicated, her dosage had just recently been halved and she was due another. Also she was messing with drugs which greatly increases the chances of violence.

I spoke to the person I know with PS and asked him about the effects of halving the dosage his comment although not a doctor was "That would be reckless"

No she wasn't! She still had a moderate dose in her system at death. Her meds were reduced because they were far too strong and she couldn't function!

[Jane]

Sheila was effectively unmedicated, her dosage had just recently been halved and she was due another. Also she was messing with drugs which greatly increases the chances of violence.

I spoke to the person I know with PS and asked him about the effects of halving the dosage his comment although not a doctor was "That would be reckless"

Yet autopsy revealed only trace elements of those drugs you claim her to have been messing with, which doesn't indicate an habitual user.

[Hardy Boy]

And I am sure every man and his dog will come out post acquittal saying they always thought he was innocent. 

DI Miller was present at the meeting with Dr Vanezis on 8th Aug where the only dissenter, according to Dr Vanezis, was DS Jones.

If PS Bews had concerns/suspicions where are these documented?  Bews saying xyz on the teli decades later is not evidence of anything. 

No Julie's wit stat states Bamber told her he was involved that's a completely different proposition to your claim that Bamber told her he was involved.

It was Miller who rang TAFF and asked if he was available to meet at the farm that evening, "were not happy with this guy" Miller recalls he never got any chance to say anything else, TAFF went into one and put the phone down.  I think they were frightened of TAFF and his position.  Clark also made his feelings known to TAFF, and this was after the meeting, TAFF told him the same as he had told Stan, they were overly-influenced by the family.  It was at this stage the incompetent TAFF told Cook........ not to do a FULL fingerprint examination or a search of the Premises.

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[Cambridgecutie]

It was Miller who rang TAFF and asked if he was available to meet at the farm that evening, "were not happy with this guy" Miller recalls he never got any chance to say anything else, TAFF went into one and put the phone down.  I think they were frightened of TAFF and his position.  Clark also made his feelings known to TAFF, and this was after the meeting, TAFF told him the same as he had told Stan, they were overly-influenced by the family.  It was at this stage the incompetent TAFF told Cook........ not to do a FULL fingerprint examination or a search of the Premises.

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Wrong!

DI Miller was present at all pm's along with DI Cook and DC's Bird and Hammersley.  Dr Vanezis is very clear that all present subscribed to the murder/suicide theory and the only dissenter was DS Jones who offered nothing of evidential value.

DI Miller was given responsibility for conducting the investigation up to 16th Aug.  From the 12th - 16th Aug he was A/DCI. 

If you want to put text in quotation marks please provide supporting evidence.

[Hardy Boy]

Wrong!

DI Miller was present at all pm's along with DI Cook and DC's Bird and Hammersley.  Dr Vanezis is very clear that all present subscribed to the murder/suicide theory and the only dissenter was DS Jones who offered nothing of evidential value.

DI Miller was given responsibility for conducting the investigation up to 16th Aug.  From the 12th - 16th Aug he was A/DCI. 

If you want to put text in quotation marks please provide supporting evidence.

Like i said, they was frightened of TAFF and he was working under instructions from TAFF,  yes i accept they were all to blame, they didn't get called the Clousea squad for nothing, i used to remind some ESSEX police officers of this saying, at the end of the Day it was follow my leader.  One woman Police officer who i knew well, when i used to rib her about working for the Clousea Squad, said "her Dad was on Forensics, and was adament they had the right person"

[Cambridgecutie]

Like i said, they was frightened of TAFF and he was working under instructions from TAFF,  yes i accept they were all to blame, they didn't get called the Clousea squad for nothing, i used to remind some ESSEX police officers of this saying, at the end of the Day it was follow my leader.  One woman Police officer who i knew well, when i used to rib her about working for the Clousea Squad, said "her Dad was on Forensics, and was adament they had the right person"

Wrong! 

DI Miller was the A/DCI from 12th - 16th Aug.  There was nothing to prevent him from getting others on board and going to Chief Sup Harris.

I am not interested in your hearsay. 

Was DS Jones singled out in the Dickinson report for praise?  Was he promoted?  He was a thick copper off the leash.

[David1819]

It was Miller who rang TAFF and asked if he was available to meet at the farm that evening, "were not happy with this guy" Miller recalls he never got any chance to say anything else, TAFF went into one and put the phone down.  I think they were frightened of TAFF and his position.  Clark also made his feelings known to TAFF, and this was after the meeting, TAFF told him the same as he had told Stan, they were overly-influenced by the family.  It was at this stage the incompetent TAFF told Cook........ not to do a FULL fingerprint examination or a search of the Premises.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1168.0;attach=19647;image

According to DS Jones - "On that occasion no one else expressed any reservations re the murder suicide theory." 

[Hardy Boy]

Wrong! 

DI Miller was the A/DCI from 12th - 16th Aug.  There was nothing to prevent him from getting others on board and going to Chief Sup Harris.

I am not interested in your hearsay. 

Was DS Jones singled out in the Dickinson report for praise?  Was he promoted?  He was a thick copper off the leash.

Well don't read it and don't reply then it's that simple.....................You have Stan climbing through WHF farm windows and planting his own blood on the silencer, or taking it off the relatives and then planting his own Blood, you accuse him off doing such an act to frame Bamber, without the slightest SHRED OF EVIDENCE.  Yours isn't hearsay, it's complete BOLLOCKS.

[Hardy Boy]

According to DS Jones - "On that occasion no one else expressed any reservations re the murder suicide theory." 

I think it's well known David that Stan wasn't buying the fact it was Murder Suicide, Vanezis backs this up.  Stan also Approached Miller. i will post the full page rather than a snippet.

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[BarefootDanC]

Sheila was effectively unmedicated, her dosage had just recently been halved and she was due another. Also she was messing with drugs which greatly increases the chances of violence.

I spoke to the person I know with PS and asked him about the effects of halving the dosage his comment although not a doctor was "That would be reckless"

It would be interesting to ask the same question of a consultant psychiatrist.

[Cambridgecutie]

I think it's well known David that Stan wasn't buying the fact it was Murder Suicide, Vanezis backs this up.  Stan also Approached Miller. i will post the full page rather than a snippet.

https://jeremybamberforum.co.uk/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4596.0;attach=33748;image

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We know DS Jones was the only dissenter pretty much from the off.  Point being he was the only dissenter at that stage.  Of course as he started going around fabricating evidence eg outside of silencer and then JM's testimony he was able to get others on board.