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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #180 on: October 07, 2024, 04:34:PM »

Indeed so. But they weren't responsible for the head wound and he wouldn't have been able to speak. Hideous situation. Poor man.
Hideous indeed Jane, hideous indeed!

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #181 on: October 07, 2024, 04:36:PM »
It's not just a guilt perspective Snow, iv'e just followed the evidence.  He's found slumped in a chair, there is a broken off rifle stock on the floor, he has a external fracture to the skull caused by some instrument hitting his Skull, he has defensive injuries to his Arm, the raid team saw what must have been a violent struggle in the Kitchen..............................................What else would you want me to Conclude from this evidence?
Just that Sheila was responsible HB! ^-^

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #182 on: October 07, 2024, 04:38:PM »
Lasted Adam?
I dont know!
A strike every couple of seconds, two or three minutes or so?
What do you think?

Agree with that. ILB says 10 minutes!

Continuous frenzied blows with no resistance could definately total 50+ in a minute. Bamber was strong & fit.

So 90 seconds of continuous blows & a few seconds wrestling for the rifle equals around 2 minutes.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2024, 04:39:PM by Adam »
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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #183 on: October 07, 2024, 04:48:PM »
Just that Sheila was responsible HB! ^-^


Given how eloquently HB has described it, Sheila couldn't possibly have been responsible. It's just occurred to me that no one has come forward to say they witnessed her having a psych episode during which she showed violence to anyone, when she wasn't medicated. The likelihood of such occurring when she was must be unlikely in the extreme.

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #184 on: October 07, 2024, 05:02:PM »
The stock was badly cracked around the trigger area Dave!
Certainly was, the drawing doesn't show the full extent whereas the actual crime scene photo does -
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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #185 on: October 07, 2024, 05:03:PM »
Just that Sheila was responsible HB! ^-^
Well that's your Conclusion Snow and your entitled to it, your also entitled to think Neville was knocked out for three hours by Sheila with a fractured Skull and left by the AGA to burn his back.

In what order do you think that Neville recieved the beating and the shot's from Shiela,  was it beating and then unconsciousness, then shots upstairs, Neville comes downstairs then shots downstairs, and when do you fit the Phone call in to Bamber?

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #186 on: October 07, 2024, 05:19:PM »
Suspect there was intially around 40 seconds of continuous blows by Bamber. These mainly hitting Nevill's forearms.

This weakened Nevill further but he was still able to wrestle for the rifle. Resulting in the aga scratches and light smashing. This lasting around 20 seconds.

There was then a final flurry of blows which knocked Nevill out. Hitting him in the face and on the head. Which lasted around 30 seconds.

So really 90 seconds. That is still a long time to take continuous powerful blows from a blunt instrument. Nevill's injuries show that.
« Last Edit: October 07, 2024, 05:21:PM by Adam »
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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #187 on: October 07, 2024, 05:25:PM »

Given how eloquently HB has described it, Sheila couldn't possibly have been responsible. It's just occurred to me that no one has come forward to say they witnessed her having a psych episode during which she showed violence to anyone, when she wasn't medicated. The likelihood of such occurring when she was must be unlikely in the extreme.
Is mental illness predictable Jane?

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #188 on: October 07, 2024, 05:29:PM »
Certainly was, the drawing doesn't show the full extent whereas the actual crime scene photo does -
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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #189 on: October 07, 2024, 05:42:PM »
Well that's your Conclusion Snow and your entitled to it, your also entitled to think Neville was knocked out for three hours by Sheila with a fractured Skull and left by the AGA to burn his back.

In what order do you think that Neville recieved the beating and the shot's from Shiela,  was it beating and then unconsciousness, then shots upstairs, Neville comes downstairs then shots downstairs, and when do you fit the Phone call in to Bamber?
Sheila and Nevill in kitchen, Nevill knocked out,rifle stock damaged on head or Aga.
Sheila goes upstairs,shoots June,shoots boys,cleans herself up,writes letters.
Nevill comes round at 3.10,phones Bamber in a frightened daze due to brain bleed,staggers up stairs.
Met by Sheila around main bedroom door,shot twice in face,retreats,shot in arm and torso,staggers to kitchen at deaths door,slumps in chair,holds up good arm,beaten with stock and barrel of rifle, succumbs to wounds and slumps over chair/scuttle,now at rest Nevill is shot four times in head!

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #190 on: October 07, 2024, 05:49:PM »
Sheila and Nevill in kitchen, Nevill knocked out,rifle stock damaged on head or Aga.
Sheila goes upstairs,shoots June,shoots boys,cleans herself up,writes letters.
Nevill comes round at 3.10,phones Bamber in a frightened daze due to brain bleed,staggers up stairs.
Met by Sheila around main bedroom door,shot twice in face,retreats,shot in arm and torso,staggers to kitchen at deaths door,slumps in chair,holds up good arm,beaten with stock and barrel of rifle, succumbs to wounds and slumps over chair/scuttle,now at rest Nevill is shot four times in head!

So no call to the police.

Cleans herself up & puts on sleeping attire.
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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #191 on: October 07, 2024, 06:05:PM »
Is mental illness predictable Jane?


I think you'll find that murders/violent crimes committed by schizophrenics are done when they're unmedicated. Such is fairly predictable. Sheila was not of their number.

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #192 on: October 07, 2024, 06:13:PM »
So no call to the police.

Cleans herself up & puts on sleeping attire.
Many believe a call to the police was made too Adam!

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #193 on: October 07, 2024, 06:17:PM »
So no call to the police.

Cleans herself up & puts on sleeping attire.
And writes her Memoirs, while Neville's out cold for three hours and then cleans herself up ready to batter Neville again,  round two i suppose.   ;D

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #194 on: October 07, 2024, 06:45:PM »
Suspect there was intially around 40 seconds of continuous blows by Bamber. These mainly hitting Nevill's forearms.

This weakened Nevill further but he was still able to wrestle for the rifle. Resulting in the aga scratches and light smashing. This lasting around 20 seconds.

There was then a final flurry of blows which knocked Nevill out. Hitting him in the face and on the head. Which lasted around 30 seconds.

So really 90 seconds. That is still a long time to take continuous powerful blows from a blunt instrument. Nevill's injuries show that.
Snow say's it was in two fights by Sheila, first the knockout, then the rematch.