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Offline snow66!

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #195 on: October 07, 2024, 06:59:PM »

I think you'll find that murders/violent crimes committed by schizophrenics are done when they're unmedicated. Such is fairly predictable. Sheila was not of their number.
Sheila was half medicated with one worry after the other compounding her distress Jane!
Either she carried out the murders in the grip of a psychotic episode or a bout of severe clinical depression.
Who knows?

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #196 on: October 07, 2024, 07:01:PM »
And writes her Memoirs, while Neville's out cold for three hours and then cleans herself up ready to batter Neville again,  round two i suppose.   ;D
Ha ha,very good HB, very good!

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #197 on: October 07, 2024, 07:03:PM »
Snow say's it was in two fights by Sheila, first the knockout, then the rematch.


Snow's imagination seems to have no limits! I wonder if he'd planning a book to be called "The Unbelievable Fiction About The Massacre At White House Farm"?

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #198 on: October 07, 2024, 07:12:PM »
Sheila was half medicated with one worry after the other compounding her distress Jane!
Either she carried out the murders in the grip of a psychotic episode or a bout of severe clinical depression.
Who knows?


She wasn't "half medicated", Snow. She was receiving the same dose as is considered appropriate now. During trials it was found that higher doses rendered patients zombie-like, with an ungainly gait -something Sheila complained about. Incidentally, anyone in the grip of "severe clinical depression" would be unlikely to summon the ability to commit murder/suicide. Depression saps energy.

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #199 on: October 07, 2024, 07:17:PM »

Snow's imagination seems to have no limits! I wonder if he'd planning a book to be called "The Unbelievable Fiction About The Massacre At White House Farm"?
Ha ha,very good Jane,very good!
But as far as I can see,its the only Sheila scenario that fits!

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #200 on: October 07, 2024, 07:26:PM »
Ha ha,very good Jane,very good!
But as far as I can see,its the only Sheila scenario that fits!


Ah! That must mean you've made up one that you think will fit?

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #201 on: October 07, 2024, 07:37:PM »
Sheila was half medicated with one worry after the other compounding her distress Jane!
Either she carried out the murders in the grip of a psychotic episode or a bout of severe clinical depression.
Who knows?

She wasn't 'half medicated'!

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #202 on: October 07, 2024, 07:39:PM »
Wev'e got one poster telling us Rifle stocks don't break easy and another saying rifle stocks do break easy, Do they or Don't they?

I have two pinches of salt here!

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #203 on: October 07, 2024, 07:44:PM »
Snow say's it was in two fights by Sheila, first the knockout, then the rematch.

Wonder when she found the time? Fights, letter writing, phone calls, ritual bathing, clothes washing - oh and 4 murders - opps and lets not forget ........ a suicide.  ::)

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #204 on: October 07, 2024, 07:46:PM »
Ha ha,very good HB, very good!
Well it's what you are suggesting i don't take any credit.

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #205 on: October 07, 2024, 08:10:PM »
Sheila was half medicated with one worry after the other compounding her distress Jane!
Either she carried out the murders in the grip of a psychotic episode or a bout of severe clinical depression.
Who knows?

Her Haloperidol dosage was reduced from 200mg to 100mg.

Sheila had 15 ng/mL of haloperidol in her blood at the time of her death.

According to a 1992 study "Haloperidol Blood Levels and Clinical Effects" They consider Haloperidol blood levels as follows -

low (2 to 13 ng/mL), medium (13.1 to 24 ng/mL), or high (24.1 to 35 ng/mL).

According to a 1980s study, heavy sedation is associated with levels in excess of 50ng/mL

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #206 on: October 07, 2024, 08:13:PM »
Her Haloperidol dosage was reduced from 200mg to 100mg.

Sheila had 15 ng/mL of haloperidol in her blood at the time of her death.

According to a 1992 study "Haloperidol Blood Levels and Clinical Effects" They consider Haloperidol blood levels as follows -

low (2 to 13 ng/mL), medium (13.1 to 24 ng/mL), or high (24.1 to 35 ng/mL).

According to a 1980s study, heavy sedation is associated with levels in excess of 50ng/mL
So what does this suggest Dave?

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #207 on: October 07, 2024, 08:18:PM »

Ah! That must mean you've made up one that you think will fit?
Well yes,exactly Jane!
It all depends on the conclusion that the experts come to regarding Boyces Aga evidence!

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #208 on: October 07, 2024, 10:24:PM »
Her Haloperidol dosage was reduced from 200mg to 100mg.

Sheila had 15 ng/mL of haloperidol in her blood at the time of her death.

According to a 1992 study "Haloperidol Blood Levels and Clinical Effects" They consider Haloperidol blood levels as follows -

low (2 to 13 ng/mL), medium (13.1 to 24 ng/mL), or high (24.1 to 35 ng/mL).

According to a 1980s study, heavy sedation is associated with levels in excess of 50ng/mL
Can anything be deduced from that, David?

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Re: Police Fitting Up Suspects
« Reply #209 on: October 07, 2024, 11:16:PM »
Agree with that. ILB says 10 minutes!

Continuous frenzied blows with no resistance could definately total 50+ in a minute. Bamber was strong & fit.

So 90 seconds of continuous blows & a few seconds wrestling for the rifle equals around 2 minutes.

Don't believe it was a simple as made out.

Six foot 4 guy heavily built

Overturned crockery, kitchen light smashes. Kitchen showing signs of a struggle.

Big guy getting downstairs and fighting till the death
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